Talk:Phillip Schofield/Archive 2

"Former" television presenter
Why is Schofield referred to as a "former" television presenter in the lead sentence when he hasn't formally retired? He's made a few remarks about "My career is over" etc, although really he's just been cancelled and had his post at ITV terminated. That's not the same as retiring. Sure, it's unlikely he will ever work in TV again, but I wouldn't rule out a "comeback" of some degree on a right wing channel like GB News or TalkTV that makes a point of platforming controversial figures shunned by the mainstream. A few years ago I edited Graham Linehan's page to call him a "former" comedy writer, however this was reverted as the mods claimed that it wasn't correct as Linehan hadn't actually ended his career, despite him admitting that he no longer works in the industry due to becoming an anti-trans activist. If Linehan isn't a "former" comedy writer then Schofield definitely isn't a "former" presenter. I personally think Linehan's page should have "former" in the lead sentence and Schofield's shouldn't. Ninehundreddollarydoos (talk) 11:28, 3 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Agree. He has not formally retired and the lead has his resignation stated clearly. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 11:54, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Graham Linehan's situation is very different from Schofield's. TV celebrities often come "back from retirement", especially if the price is right. 86.187.164.40 (talk) 10:23, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Neither Schofield nor Linehan's lead should say "former". The lead should say what they are notable for, it doesn't really matter if they no longer do that thing. Popcornfud (talk) 11:24, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 4 June 2023
He's no longer a presenter. He has resigned. Should mention "was a presenter". 85.138.224.112 (talk) 23:53, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: I'm assuming you're talking about the first sentence. Changing "is" to "was" would typically mean the subject has died. Instead, the lead would be changed to something like "former presenter", but a consensus on this would be helpful, seeing as it's already been removed once. ARandomName123 (talk) 01:11, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Former presenter would need some evidence that he has retired. He may have effectively retired, but at this point it is too early to say. When sources say he is a former presenter, that is when Wikipedia says it. Wikipedia is a lacking indicator, as we rely on the sources to be written first. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:24, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

The British Soap Awards
Is this considered notable enough to mention in the lead? It was one of the things he presented for the longest amount of time, hosting it from 2006 to 2022. 89.240.214.76 (talk) 09:14, 7 June 2023 (UTC)