Talk:Phyllis Zagano

Copyright problem removed
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Date of Birth
A Secondary Source Zagano's birthdate and place of birth are listed "Phyllis Zagano was born in Queens, New York, on August 25, 1947" in the finding aid for her papers at the Women and Leadership Archives, Loyola University Chicago. --Samuel J. Howard (talk) 17:20, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Good find! I see you have already added it to the article. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 22:35, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Conflict of interest
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vandalism of Phyllis Zagano article
Repeated vandalism of Phyllis Zagano article has stripped it of much neutral content. See: https://people.hofstra.edu/Phyllis_Zagano/ and compare 96.232.105.97 (talk) 17:12, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * IP editor, please be extremely careful not to make false accusations – that can lead to loss of editing privileges. There's been no vandalism of this page (that I can see, anyway). What there has been, on the other hand, is an endless and tedious series of attempts to insert inappropriate and unencyclopaedic promotional content about this person, which have sucked up large amounts of volunteer time. In almost every case, those attempts have been made by someone using the IP address 96.232.105.97 – your address, in fact. There've also been similar edits from the Vatican (212.77.3.51), and from an IP address in France. The behaviour strongly suggests that the people behind those addresses have a personal or professional connection to Zagano. If so, they should not make any edit to the article itself, but request changes here, on the talk-page – see the section immediately above this for instructions on how to do that. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 18:48, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Most of the vandaliam has been by Justlettersandnumbers, who seems obsessed with Zagano — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.232.105.97 (talk) 19:17, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 April 2020
Change Boston University College of Communications to Boston University College of Communication 74.101.106.194 (talk) 19:50, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 * The category is currently titled Category:Boston University College of Communications alumni. No change can be made to the article at this time. I'll look into the situation and see if category maintenance needs done. —C.Fred (talk) 19:55, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads-up, Phyllis! Elizium23 (talk) 21:50, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Phyllis Zagano's page
The only point I see here is in the first paragraph, "She has written and spoken on the role of women in the Roman Catholic Church and is an advocate for the ordination of women as deacons." I would rephrase this to say: She writes and speaks on the role of women in the Catholic Church. Her research is primarily about the arguments, pro and con, around the diaconate in the Catholic Church to ordain women deacons.

This is the only place where there is a non-neutral point of view.

Janice Leah Poss (talk) 19:49, 13 January 2021 (UTC)janicelp
 * , every article I have seen her pop up in has her advocating for women in the diaconate. I don't see how that is inaccurate. Elizium23 (talk) 20:13, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Yes, that's certainly true, but that was the only apparent non-neutral issue I could see on page, other than it appears there are some copyright issues as well. In spite of the other sources that say this about her advocacy, it might not be appropriate in this case. I am part of the 1000 Women in Religion project and am going to ask some of them who have more experience with this kind of thing what can be done. Thanks so much for your quick reply.

Janice Leah Poss (talk) 20:33, 13 January 2021 (UTC)janicelp


 * Per the guidance at WP:DETAG, WP:WTRMT, and WP:BEBOLD, if you believe the issue identified by the tag has been resolved, you may simply remove the tag. --JBL (talk) 21:37, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Dear JBL, Perhaps, but it seems there are other issues -- copyright and conflicts of interest? Not sure, but am communicating with other editors on our project to see what we can do to clean up this page. I also am pretty new to all this, so not quite sure how I could delete a tag. I'm nervous about touching others work. Thanks for your help. Janice Leah Poss (talk) 21:51, 13 January 2021 (UTC)janicelp
 * The COI issue here is that the subject of the article has, on-and-off for years, edited the article, mistaking a biographical article for a personal CV. This finally ended 15 months ago when the article was protected from anonymous edits (Zagano has an account but had just been editing without logging in -- the account was last used in 2015).  There have been copyright issues in the past, but nothing on the article is currently tagged as being a copyright violation, and I am not aware of any such content in the current version -- are you?  Let me ping, who added the tag, to get their opinion, but really I think that, if the article does not seem promotional to you, you should just remove the tag.  If you are looking at the article source, the tag is the first line  ; removing that will remove the notice.  You are definitely being more cautious than necessary :).  Of course, making improvements to the article (independent of the tag) would also be welcome. --JBL (talk) 22:33, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Dear JBL, Thanks, yes, I am in contact with Ms. Zagano for other matters. She brought what's going on with her page. I surmised that she was editing this herself and I told her that she could not do that. Also that because I know her, I can't do any editing myself because of COI. I will remove the warning box on top. This will help for sure. Absolutely, I am suggesting to our team that we can work on improving her page when we do our edit-a-thons. She's done a lot of work on her topic in her academic life and this needs to be reflected better on her page. I truly appreciate your feedback and help on this. I don't have too much time with this right now, but I do what I can and I have much to learn. Thank you. ````janicelp — Preceding unsigned comment added by Janicelp (talk • contribs) 03:50, 14 January 2021 (UTC)


 * I hope you realize how it kinda looks bad that someone with a declared COI would remove the COI tag from the article? Yeah, even if we agree, that's where you put in a request and have someone impartial do it. I've tagged all of Zagano's sockpuppets and added them to the connected contributor list at the top of this talk page, which cannot be removed by anyone. I look forward to working with you. Elizium23 (talk) 04:18, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
 * That being said, I've just given the article a once-over and I concur with the removal of the COI tag as it has not been sufficiently tainted to affect its neutrality. Elizium23 (talk) 04:33, 14 January 2021 (UTC)