Talk:Phyllomedusa bicolor

Dermorphin and Deltorphin production
http://www.bbbautism.com/pdf/article_14_why_does_gfcf_work.pdf this article deals about autistic children having Dermorphin in their urin possibly produced by some fungus in their gut. The article suggest that since specimens raised in captivity do not produce these opioidpeptides they might be produced by bacteria or fungus on frogs skin.

I have heard another theory that captivated frogs stop producing the venom since it doesn't seem to help them get free. I think it might have been in one of those youtube videos linked in this article but I can't check it since they are removed by the user that posted them. Those videos were entitled "The Matzes frog ritual". But in these clips http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlrk3GoHG3w, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkPFUUyQ58g there's the same white old guy Richard Fowler that was in those removed videos and also in the Jungle Trip documentary(19:00 - 27:00). Both filmed among Matsés tribe. The venom clearly comes from inside the frog so I suppose that pretty much overrules the theory above about bacteria or fungus on frogs skin. Clip from Tribe (TV series) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKH1O7y8WXA also present the use of the frog venom by Matis tribe.

Opioid peptide article also suggests that Deltorphin and Dermorphin could be produced by fungus and microbes but cites no reference on that part. Ahabvihrea (talk) 23:12, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

rtgfgnggv —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.164.44.178 (talk) 14:32, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Vice-link not working
The link to the Vice-website "The Sapo diaries" is not working. I assume this is the new link to the same video: http://www.vice.com/hamiltons-pharmacopeia/the-sapo-diaries-episode-1-1 I'm not entirely sure how the editing process on Wikipedia works, but if this is a trivial fix, go ahead! 129.177.138.114 (talk) 10:11, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Edit: And neither are the mariri.net links under external links. To be honest the entire website http://www.mariri.net/ looks broken. 129.177.138.114 (talk) 10:14, 16 May 2014 (UTC)


 * I happened across this page and found those dead links as well. I have deleted them. It's pretty easy to do these minor edits, so you might go ahead and try. But first consider creating a user account; it will help you establish an edit history and has some other good advantages.--Petrichori (talk) 00:24, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

Sourcing media articles as medical evidence
Regarding the phrase Claims of medicinal effects have not been supported by medical evidence.[12][11] that appears in the article - this sources two media articles as the basis. As far as I know, this isn't good WP policy (not to mention the media being incentivized to take that position to begin with, for bonus sensationalism points).

The phrase itself is also not quite correct unless I'm mistaken. Medicinal effects are not at question as far as I know - there is a wealth of research about the effects of the peptides and it's hard to deny things such as lowering of blood pressure from vasodilation from the Phyllomedusin peptide in kambo (amongst others); the issue, as far as I understand, is one of outright proof of it being an "effective treatment".

I am no expert on the WP policies here, but I believe the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kambo_cleanse Talk page may provide very useful here just to make sure this kind of denial of research isn't getting ahead of itself on this particular page. There's a lot of discussion about this topic in that Talk page.

As such I have edited this sentence to make it more neutral and accurate, and will leave it to the WP editors to go over once they see this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ablations (talk • contribs) 04:16, 26 April 2022 (UTC)