Talk:Piano Sonata No. 27 (Beethoven)

Bramwell Tovey
Where was this? And it sounds more like something that Donald Francis Tovey would write, in his series of program notes later published in several - at least five - volumes, "Essays in Musical Analysis" (and often just referred to, simply, as "Tovey" wrote this or "Tovey" wrote that for a number of years after - this was, for awhile, a rather well-known series of books in some circles; they show up not just in larger library collections but in quite a few used bookstores. Some volumes of this 1930s series of books were reprinted starting apparently - according to Worldcat... around 1978 and through the 1980s - by Oxford University Press, and I think more recently... It also could be from something else he wrote, as he seems to have been a prolific music critic as well as composer. And, of course, it might be by Bramwell Tovey...)

Did someone see "Tovey" and do an incorrect disambiguation, or was the passage quoted in fact written by Bramwell Tovey? Then where? Schissel | Sound the Note! 16:15, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Of course it was Donald Francis. I've corrected the passage and provided a reference. That the question remained unanswered for 7 years is a shame – I guess nobody cares about this beautiful little sonata! What a pity. --Jashiin (talk) 12:19, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Piano Sonata No. 1 (Beethoven) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RM bot 13:16, 30 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Note the date of the foregoing notice. The discussion, now long closed, concerned whether to move the sonata articles to new titles incorporating opus numbers. The conclusion was not to do so. Drhoehl (talk) 23:51, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Typical sonata?
So many of Beethoven's sonatas contain only 2 movements that the "typical sonata" reference, used in several Beethoven sonata articles, can at least be dropped here... Schissel | Sound the Note! 04:44, 10 November 2012 (UTC) (when the exception becomes your rule, reconsider your rule.)
 * A quick survey shows that of 32 piano sonatas, 26 are in three or four movements and 6 in two movements, so the "typical sonata" reference is not out of place. Gyan (talk) 08:36, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Fairly answered. Though the sonata tradition before Beethoven included many more 2-movement sonatas, e.g. Still, ... hrm! :) Schissel | Sound the Note! 03:22, 24 April 2013 (UTC) (I wish those three William Newman books were still available- for more reasons than this. Good books generally anyway.)