Talk:Piano Sonata No. 8 (Mozart)

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I would like to contribute to the Sonata article by adding a link to my video which visualizes and plays the sonata in detail. My change is reverted supposing that it is of advertising nature. I understand that advertising links are not allowed on wikipedia, however my video is not an advertisement. I believe that it is extremely useful to see the sheet music while listening to music, and it will improves the quality of the article. So please watch the video and if you agree undo your reverts on my changes. Here is the link: Video Best regards, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.164.187.215 (talk) 15:08, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

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One of the more difficult of the sonatas, included along with K.576 in the LTCL repertiore by the Trinity College of Music, his sonata in fact resembles the minor-key works written subsequently by Beethoven in the despair and agitation it expresses. The first movement, Allegro, common time, (120 crotchets per min in the recommended rendition) in sonata form begins with a dotted rhythm which forms the main theme. In contrast with this, a semiquaver step-like melody forms the second subject. This is introduced in the relative major i.e. C major in the exposition and in the tonic (minor) in the recapitulation. The development is an elaboration on the main theme with frequent modulations and grating dissonances. In the development section Mozart has made use of the fortissimo dynamic twice - the only instance where this superlative has been used in the sonatas. The concluding passage is a combination of both the themes with massive dotted chords in the right hand accompanied by diabolically loud semiquavers in the left hand.

The second movement, Andante con expressione, 3/4, (40 crotchets per min in the recommended rendition) in the submediant major, is typical of Mozart's major key slow movements in minor key works: melodious yet serious. It begins with a songlike tune but the second section, in the minor, is stormy and evokes the mood of Mvt 1.

The third movement, 2/4, Presto,(90 minims per min in the recommended rendition) in the tonic (minor) is a monothematic perpetuum mobile in quavers with the theme being a descending scale fragment in a dotted rhythm (the quavers form the accompaniment). The tension is maintained right from the start with a sudden imperfect cadence in bar 016, in place of the expected perfect cadence to end the "answer" to the "question" in bars 001 to 008. A perfect cadence is reached in bar 020 but the music does not rest even momentarily at it and its effect as a pause or break is not felt.likewise in bar 028 a perfect cadence in the relative major (C) is anticipated with a pair of G major chords in cortchets but C minor is introduced in bar 029. At bar 064 the left and right hands interchange with the bass taking the scalar motive and the treble the accompanying quavers which are now raised to the status of an independent melody. This minor key tension continues till bar 142 when suddenly there is a modulation to major and the melodies are neat question answer pairs in 4 bar phrasing. Pauses are observed at the phrase endings to create a feeling of spaciousness utterly in contrast with the hectic turbulence of the preceding material. But this mode is not to last : 32 bars later back comes the minor with renewed vengeance. This effect of making the minor more poignant by introducing a section in major4 has been repeated by Mozart in his Rondo K.511 in trhe same key as this piece. As the ending approaches, perfect cadences start appearing, as in bar 218. The very last bars contain a 6 bar phrasing structure with descending scales played piano for 4 bars followed by emphatic chords marked forte in the next two. A loud perfect cadence followed by 2 reoetitions of the tonic chord concludes

— Preceding unsigned comment added by DavidRF (talk • contribs) 15:56, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

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please note that you have mixed up Sonata 8 and 9.

8 is in D and 9 is in A. correct me if i'm wrong.

--Rudy Vogelsang (talk) 12:19, 20 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Per all the books that I have, it is correct here. I just added a reference. Do you have a source that says otherwise? Epachamo (talk) 03:16, 12 November 2020 (UTC)