Talk:Piasecki H-21

Requested move

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moved Patstuarttalk 20:43, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

CH-21 Shawnee → Piasecki H-21 — To comform to Wikipedia:Naming conventions (aircraft) guidelines for US aircraft with multiple names - Manufacturer, number BillCJ 18:25, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

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Discussion
The H-21 Workhorse was used by the USAF before the Army ordered the H-21 Shawnee. I think the article name should reflect the fact that Shawnee is not the only name, but H-21 Workhorse/Shawnee is not really a good choice either.

No contest. Will request as Uncontroversial. - BillCJ 20:33, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
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development history problems ?
Perhaps it would be worth noting that development was costly (money, test pilots), for reference:youtube video — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.112.108.225 (talk) 18:51, 15 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Youtube is not really a reliable source. MilborneOne (talk) 13:17, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Don't know why in four years no one has pointed this out, but YouTube isn't the Source, and except for a super teeny tiny amount of videos, YouTube will never be a Source. It is neither reliable nor is not reliable, it is a video hosting service. Whether anything on YouTube could be a source would depend entirely on the actual video itself and who produced it. So if it was a link to a National Geographic video on YouTube, then National Geographic and not YouTube would be the source.

In the case of the video the OP linked on the CH-21, the source is the US Federal Government. You basically said the actual testing performed by the US Military, and recorded on film was an unreliable source. You are wrong. The trouble with that video isn't the source, it's what it is saying. And it doesn't say anything the OP says it does. It doesn't actually say anything at all. It's just film of testing to destruction of the CH-21. As in, it just shows the crashes of remote controlled CH-21 helicopters, put to the Top Gun theme song. That's just normal testing, and not any of the results from said testing. Drop helicopter out of the sky, it crashes; turn helicopter upside down close to the ground, it crashes; fly the helicopter into the ground at speed, it crashes; actual data discovered, no idea. That video doesn't have any real information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.107.138.23 (talk) 00:07, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

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Substituted at 02:56, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

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Photographs
There are numerous exterior shots but none of the interior, e.g. a cabin or cockpit photo. This would improve the article nicely. -Rolypolyman (talk) 21:16, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
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