Talk:Piast dynasty/Archive

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What do the numbers and letters after the first few names mean? Some sort of date?

All names before Mieszko I are legendary and even Mieszko I ( read wiki)was a name used at a later time. The only name actually mentioned in the 11th century is Dagome Dagome Iudex.

Someone wrote this list and it should probably be specified, that the names are legendary and the Roman numerals should be removed. user:H.J.

this page should be probably merges with Piast CC, 07:58, 18 Nov 2003 (UTC)

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Historian Adam Naruszewicz introduced the term Piast dynasty in 18th Century
The Piast dynasty history was developed after historian Adam Naruszewicz (1733-1796) for the first time used the name Piast Dynasty for early ruler of the Polans. This developed the story of Dukes and Kings of Poland from its beginnings as an independent state up to 1370, with branches of the Piasts continuing to rule allied duchies in Masovia until 1526 and Silesia until 1675.

Piast (caretaker, wheelright) was the legendary founder of the Piast Dynasty. His name was first mentioned in the Cronicae et gesta ducum sive principum Polonorum by Gallus Anonymous, written in ca 1113. Although the early dukes and kings considered themselves Piast's descendants, the term "Piast Dynasty" was invented in the 17th century by the historians, working for a number of rulers who governed their duchies in Silesia. The last Piast George William, duke of Brzeg and Legnica, died in 1675, although numerous families link genealogy to Piast. Lech was the legendary founder of Poland imprinted in neighbours languages as Lechia.

External link

 * [ Naruszewicz for the first time uses the Name Piasts for a number of early rulers.75. 8 November 2007

Per wiki policies personal webpages are not allowed as sources. Molobo (talk) 19:37, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Disambig?
For things named after the dynasty, such as the Polish People's Party "Piast".--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 22:14, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Also Piast Brewery. Object In Space (talk) 13:11, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Piasts didn't die out in 1370
They continued to live on. However their power was not the same as before.--Molobo (talk) 20:51, 1 July 2008 (UTC) ---

About removal of source reference Adam Naruszewicz from Piast dynasty
Dear User:77.253.64

I am assuming, that because you seem to be a brand new contributor to Wikipedia, you do not know any better, than to remove sourced reference from Piast dynasty and after you removed it, you claim, that it was an unsourced edit, worse yet, you violated the No personal attacks policy. You seem brand new, yet you solicit the aid of a very troubled person. Perhaps it would help you to admire more suitable role models.

Again, to increase your knowledge, here is the sourced reference you deliberately removed at Piast dynasty: Adam Naruszewicz was a highly respected Polish historian, who for the first time introduced the term Piast dynasty in his 1780-86 book: History of the Polish Nation.

'''He used the term Piast dynasty collectively for a vast group of European rulers, who came to rule the western Polans, starting in the 960s AD in territory, which by the 11th century was territory recorded as Polonia, Poland. An Observer''' (71.137.197.97 (talk) 16:59, 2 October 2008 (UTC))


 * Your edits are mostly some antipolish nonsense and looking at your talk page I can see that it isn't my separate opinion. As to yor edit in the Piast dynasty article. You must know that the name Piast first appears on a foundation stone in Silesian Piast mauzoleum in Legnica. The name Piast is used there several times in reference to the dynasty as a whole. It says about its history from the legendary Piast the Wheelwright to George William, Duke of Liegnitz. The inscription comes from 1677-1679 so you can't say that the name Piast dynasty first appeared in Naruszewiczs' book which is 100 years older, even though you found it somewhere on the web. Do you want to quarrel with an inscription made in stone? 213.238.122.45 (talk) 19:34, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

--- It is known to me, that the Piast legent was invented in the 11th-12th century. It is known, that after the Brandenburg-Silesien last Silesien Duke Georg of Liegnitz, Brieg, Wehlau references to Piasts were made in Silesia. You apparently did not read the complete statement,only a part of it, so here it is again:

Repeat: Piast dynasty: Adam Naruszewicz was a highly respected Polish historian, who for the first time introduced the term Piast dynasty in his 1780-86 book: History of the Polish Nation.

He used the term Piast dynasty collectively for a vast group of European rulers, who came to rule the western Polans, starting in the 960s AD in territory, which by the 11th century was territory recorded as Polonia, Poland.

Have a nice day (71.137.197.97 (talk) 19:54, 2 October 2008 (UTC))

The term Piast dynasty was introduced on a foundation stone in the Piast mausoleum in Legnica between 1677-1679. What is so hard in this to understand? The first egsisting text in which term PIAST DYNASTY was used was written in 1677-1679 on a foundation stone that still stands in the Piast mausoleum in Legnica. The fact that on some minor web page is written differently dose not change that fact. Any further vandalism will be reported to wikiadmin. Have a nice day 213.238.122.45 (talk) 21:57, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

German emperor vassal of Kingdom of Poland
Thats how much are worth links of that sort made in this revision —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.253.70.154 (talk) 21:47, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Precise
Mieszko ruled Poland before he obtained by diplomacy and force reckognititon from HRE. To be precise however the line starts earlier then Mieszko.--Molobo (talk) 00:28, 13 November 2008 (UTC)