Talk:Piccalilli

Relish
Are piccalilli and relish the same thing? What makes them different? Can someone with expertise on the matter clarify this on both pages? Thanks 96.238.45.90 (talk) 22:27, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
 * not just relish, but what about CHUTNEY?? i thought that was pretty much the UK term for relish...especially yellow and brown ones with mustard or tumeric....
 * shocked the term doesn't come up even ONCE in this article! 209.172.25.130 (talk) 05:26, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

There seems to be some overlap between Piccalilli and Relish, at least in regards to American pickle relish. This is an issue with determining the origin of Chicago-style relish since the owners of Superdawg calls their topping Piccalilli and dates it's use to the 1940's. It's unclear if this is the same as the topping used since the 1970's on most Chicago-style hot dogs. Obviously this is an issue requiring deep research Ace-o-aces2 (talk) 16:50, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

Merge
Merge seems reasonable - they are clearly of the same origin, in the times before spelling consistency.Justinc 22:28, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

The two articles contradict eachther, however. I guess this merge will have to be left for an expert. Mikeblas 06:16, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

British piccalilli vs. Ozark piccalilli?
So, what I know as piccalilli is a fermented green tomato relish- sort of like a sauerkraut with green tomatoes, onions and bell pepper, it seems akin but VERY different from what is described here.-E. abu Filumena 08:07, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Interesting.
 * British piccalilli is pretty much Branston-style sweet pickle but in a bright yellow rather than brown sauce.
 * I'll try to differentiate in the article. Maikel (talk) 19:34, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Accidental deletion
I accidentally deleted the article but managed to restore it using googles catch. it is now restored to 13 Nov 2007 00:06:17 GMT. - sorry for any inconvienience!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by AndyWhiteheadTheSecond (talk • contribs) 00:55, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

American piccalilli
I have condensed the previously available information into this segment, but I'm not competent so I'd appreciate it if someone could go over and expand it. Thanks. Maikel (talk) 20:16, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

"Piccalilli" is alternative name for Chicago-style green relish, but it isn't the principal name for the relish, nor is the green relish the principal use of the term in America. I'll see what I can do to fix. 99.118.142.78 (talk) 08:47, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Colour
British piccalilli is always bright yellow, and according to the article the other type is green. Yet the picture shows a brown coloured preparation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.4.152.167 (talk) 08:03, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, the photo is of a "mustard piccalilli". While I've never actually seen piccalilli, I know from American recipe books that it's made from mostly green tomatoes- so it would make sense for it to be greenish. As to the British version, I have no clue. If you have any, it would certainly be nice if you could take a pic and upload it. :-) &mdash;/M endaliv /2¢/Δ's/ 08:15, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

etymology
The word is probably related to and possibly derived from the Arabic "mukhallal" meaning "pickled". The language of transmission seems to be Italian, but this may be an illusion Pamour (talk) 10:16, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * An interesting possibility. However, pickle and piccalilli are both surely more likely to derive ultimately from the Dutch pekel, signifying brine or brined products. The Dutch angle is largely, or entirely, missing from the article. In fact you can buy piccalilli both in the Netherlands and Belgium, where portions of it are usually available in chip (i.e. "French fry") shops and stalls. There are plenty of Dutch mustard pickle recipes online, some from American-Dutch families, and piccalilli is known in most former Dutch colonies. It seems to me most likely that it originated, both as a word and a product, in the pickle shops of Amsterdam, where Jewish pickling traditions from Poland and eastern Europe interacted with Indonesian influences. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.97.91.147 (talk) 13:57, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

Nonsense
What is "Piccalilli is by some British people" supposed to mean? Can whoever wrote it please rephase it?87.127.152.41 (talk) 13:38, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

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