Talk:Piedmont Airlines

fleet
In review of the numbers, the total aircraft as of 2007 for Piedmont is as follows: DHC-8-100/200/300 - (58) total aircraft with (9) stored and (29) leased.
 * According to the Piedmont website on May 9th, 2008, they "currently operate 55 deHavilland DHC-8 turbo prop aircraft". Any way to find out how they break down by series? Greg Salter (talk) 01:07, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Split
Even though Piedmont (pre US Air) and Piedmont (post US Air) both have the same name they're really different airlines. I think they should be split into their own articles per the PSA Airlines and Pacific Southwest Airlines articles.. —Cliffb 05:08, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

I agree. Hopefully it will not be too confusing. --Boobinson 19:35, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't think there's enough content to split.. I think it's fine to combine, the differences are clearly outlined in article. Bwave 02:52, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

I think this new format works much better. It is easier to differentiate between the two Piedmont entities. --Boobinson 16:59, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

IATA Code
There is actually to my knowlege no code for Piedmont Airlines. PI doesn't belong to an airline, and EN is Air Dolomiti. So if people are wondering why the code is going back and forth it is because it has been set at EN and EN is not the code. :) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by RokinRyan (talk • contribs).
 * As an employee of Piedmont Airlines, you are incorrect in "updating" the IATA codes for our airline. Apparently you have missed the details about IATA codes that "Controlled duplicates are issued to regional airlines whose destinations are not likely to overlap, such that some codes are shared by two different airlines."
 * Just as EN is the IATA code for Piedmont Airlines, my company ID also includes EN as a part of my employee number. We also have tail numbers on some of our aircraft that use our IATA code. Please view http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0639036/M/ and you'll see what I mean.
 * This chart might also lend some credibility to my statements. http://thehub.usairways.com/travel/2006/0428_BoardingPriorityChart.pdf Read what it says in the blue box in the upper right corner for "active employees". Also reference the row for S3 and S4 travel as it pertains to active employees and retirees of JS and EN.
 * In reference to your statement above, Piedmont and PSA are not "operated by US Airways Express". There is no corporation known as US Airways Express. Rather, US Airways Inc (US), Piedmont Airlines (EN), and PSA Airlines (JS) are all subsidiaries of the corporate entity known as US Airways Group. It is exactly the opposite of your statement. There is a general group of flights by nine regional carriers that comprise the marketing identity of "US Airways Express". Some of those flights are OPERATED by Piedmont Airlines, just as some US Aiways Express flights are OPERATED by PSA Airlines. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.200.121.62 (talk • contribs).

I am getting this info directly from Worldspan's reservation system EN DLA AIR DOLOMITI 101 and JS     AIR KORYO     --- and also from http://www.airlinecodes.co.uk   IATA Code:  EN  ICAO Code:  DLA IATA Accounting / Prefix Code: Known As: Air Dolomiti Full Name: Air Dolomiti S.p.A. Aeree Regionali Europee Country: Italy Callsign: Dolomiti Remarks: Name changed from Air Dolomiti S.p.A.  Notes: Web Site: www.airdolomiti.it/

and

IATA Code: JS  ICAO Code:  KOR IATA Accounting / Prefix Code: 120 Known As: Air Koryo Full Name: Air Koryo Country: Korea, Democratic People's Republic of  Callsign:  Air Koryo Remarks: Notes: Web Site: www.korea-dpr.com/airkoryo.htm

However for Piedmont I got this on the same site

IATA Code: US* ICAO Code: PDT IATA Accounting / Prefix Code: Known As: USAir Express Full Name: Piedmont Airlines, Inc. d/b/a USAir Express Country: United States of America Callsign: Piedmont Remarks: Notes: Web Site:


 * = Controlled duplicate

and

IATA Code: ICAO Code: JIA IATA Accounting / Prefix Code: Known As: PSA Airlines Full Name: PSA Airlines Country: United States of America Callsign: Blue Streak Remarks: Changed name from Jetstream International Airlines w.e.f. 01/11/1995 Notes: US Airways Express Carrier Web Site: www.psaairlines.com

So from two sites, it must be right. Alot of the times the N number doesn't really mean anything like N371CA, CA is China Airlines, not Comair. So with that I change both back to US. If you indeed find something that proves me wrong let me know and either I will change it or you can. RokinRyan

I have to wonder what your qualifications might be that would indicate that you have enough background on this topic to make these incorrect changes. First off, you cite a reservation system as a source. A reservation system not even owned or used by US Airways Group. If >>Worldspan<< is programmed that way for viewing schedules or selling tickets, that does not mean that the >>IATA<< codes cannot be identical when "issued to regional airlines whose destinations are not likely to overlap".

Then you state it "must be right" because of the information coming from two sites. However, the second source is a web site not even from the USA. Because of the geographic or corporate background of the sources you reference, they may choose to publish that EN is AIR DOLOMITI and JS is AIR KORYO because together with Piedmont and PSA they are each "regional airlines whose destinations are not likely to overlap". We know that IATA allows controlled duplicates of the same codes under these circumstances. It is appropriate for AIR DOLOMITI and AIR KORYO to be EN and JS respectively in various parts of the world. However, these web pages talk about Piedmont and PSA as they exist in the USA. And in the USA, the specifics of US Airways Group indicate that EN and JS exist as Piedmont and PSA. I have no issue against AIR DOLOMITI and AIR KORYO to be EN and JS respectively when specifically referring to them. However, they are not globally exclusive to these IATA codes.

You're right, alot of times the N number does not mean anything. However you are confusing IATA code (CA = Air China) with the prefix for registration state (N = USA) as designated by ICAO. Of course Air China would not operate N371CA, because it is a US registered aircraft. And whether or not Comair chooses to use CA for their tail numbers is completely open to their discretion, regardless of what their IATA code is. All I was suggesting is this: Many airlines do choose to use their IATA code for part of their tail number. It just amazes me that you continue to think that Piedmont and PSA do not use EN and JS as their IATA codes. If the EN and JS tail numbers on Piedmont's and PSA's airplanes do not represent their IATA codes, then why would they have chosen them?71.200.121.62 17:27, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

This information on Wiki is very inaccurate about the true history of Piedmont Airlines. Piedmont airlines was an independently owned and operated airline headquartered out of Winston Salem, NC before it merged with US Air which later became US Airways. IT merged with US Airways after Norfolk Southern Railways made a tender offer for Piedmont. Piedmont's Slogan was "The up and coming airline" doesn't anyone remember the commercials. Even before the merger Piedmont had already branched out from being a regional carrier to offering coast to coast flights as well and international flights. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.182.139.28 (talk) 23:03, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

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Crew Bases
There have been multiple edits to the crew bases section. Piedmont's own website still as of January 10, 2018 shows four crew bases. Other website discuss future plans for closure, but are often undated or not clear. We should await Piedmont to update their website as an official source, prior to continuing to keep making changes to the section.David (talk) 17:17, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

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Fleet
I don't believe the fleet breakdown is accurate as I've just seen a Piedmont airlines A319 at ORD on August 22nd, 2022. I have pictures. 12.90.237.218 (talk) 22:17, 22 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Nah, Piedmont is exclusively ERJ-145.  You probably saw this American Airlines "Heritage Plane" Can't put the link, but Google "spotted-aa-piedmont-heritage-livery-a319-n744p-at-laguardia"
 * Bwave (talk) 23:19, 22 August 2022 (UTC)