Talk:Pierce Butler (American politician)

Bot-created subpage
A temporary subpage at User:Polbot/fjc/Pierce Butler was automatically created by a perl script, based on this article at the Biographical Directory of Federal Judges. The subpage should either be merged into this article, or moved and disambiguated. Polbot (talk) 16:58, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Primary topic?
It doesn't seem at all clear to me that this Pierce Butler is the primary topic. Especially troublesome is the Supreme Court justice, who seems just about as well known, if not more so. john k (talk) 22:55, 12 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Don't see any reference to a Supreme Court justice; maybe this was removed.Parkwells (talk) 09:27, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
 * You don't see any reference in this article, or any reference anywhere? See Pierce Butler (justice).  I am arguing that the justice and the framer are about equally well known, and that, as such, Pierce Butler should be a disambiguation page, with this article moved to something like Pierce Butler (politician), or the like. john k (talk) 17:39, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry, did not understand. I'm not so familiar with the rules on primary - perhaps because this one was a US Founding Father and preceded the 20th c. Justice.Parkwells (talk) 23:50, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Not how it works. Primary topic means that the distinct majority of references will be to that topic, rather than to some other topic with the same name.  Chronological priority doesn't matter. john k (talk) 02:10, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I can see that recently, views of the Butler jurist have been higher than of Butler, Founding Father. Maybe you should put your suggestion at Pierce Butler (disambiguation) page. If it were to be changed, Pierce Butler (US politician) might be better, as there were numerous Anglo-Irish politicians in the UK by that name. Good luck. Parkwells (talk) 13:16, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Article needs expansion
He was about 40 when the Rev War was over and lived another 40 years, but the article has little to say about those years and needs to be expanded to that period: how he managed his plantations, amount of land and number of slaves he owned (latter is available from censuses), more about his legislative career.Parkwells (talk) 14:56, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Requested move 6 July 2022

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: Pierce Butler Moved to Pierce Butler (American politician) and Pierce Butler (disambiguation) to Pierce Butler >>>  Extorc . talk  14:40, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

– This was suggested above several years ago, but it doesn't look like anyone ever started an RM. The massviews show that the Founding Father gets slightly fewer views than Pierce Butler (justice), making it difficult to believe that either is primary. Both are historical figures of roughly equal importance, so I also don't see a strong long-term significance argument either way. There are also several additional Pierce Butlers listed on the disambiguation page, although some are partial title matches. In sum, no article meets either of the WP:PTOPIC criteria for this title. I don't feel strongly about which disambiguator to use for the Founding Father: Pierce Butler (American politician) would be ideal, but it could be ambiguous depending on whether Pierce Mason Butler was commonly known as Pierce Butler. Pierce Butler (American politician, born 1744) is another option, as is Pierce Butler (Founding Father) (analogous to James Wilson (Founding Father)). Extraordinary Writ (talk) 22:12, 6 July 2022 (UTC) The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * Pierce Butler → ?
 * Pierce Butler (disambiguation) → Pierce Butler
 * Support per nom.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 07:19, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Support. Agree with just Pierce Butler (American politician) don't feel the more specific ones are needed. Skynxnex (talk) 13:32, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Support Pierce Butler (American politician). -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:50, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Anglican becoming Episcopalian...does not make sense?
Anglican becoming Episcopalian...does not make sense? 88.97.108.45 (talk) 21:34, 20 February 2024 (UTC)