Talk:Pierce the Veil

Genres
screamo isnt a correct genre for this band. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.160.47.58 (talk) 23:17, 13 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Agreed. I'm removing it. If anyone has a reliable source, feel free to post it. -- FatalError (talk | contribs) 18:43, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Why Progressive rock is in the genre? is that appropriate!? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.54.29.86 (talk) 04:55, 6 March 2011 (UTC)


 * No, it isn't. And someone keeps re-adding progressive rock. They are not progressive rock, people. Informing people otherwise is just plain misleading. 66.229.216.37 (talk) 07:10, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

A correct genre would be post-hardcore. They are no where near screamo — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luce156 (talk • contribs) 18:03, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

improve page
could somebody maybe make this page better?? like create pages for their albums and have track listings and stuff? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.156.178.22 (talk) 20:29, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Kissing in Cars
I know that Pierce the Veil has a song called "Kissing in Cars", but I have both of their albums and it's not on either one. :( Is it on a compilation c.d. or is it strictly on the internet or what? I can't find out where to get it. :( 198.200.158.137 (talk) 14:17, 1 July 2010 (UTC)Robyn
 * I've wondered the exact same thing. It just makes no sense. • GunMetal Angel  07:30, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Kissing in Cars was written/sung by Vic for one of Jaime's friends. Jaime's friend wanted Jaime to write a song for his fiancee, so Jaime asked Vic to sing the song. I'm not sure if it was Jaime or Vic who wrote the song. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.182.241.2 (talk) 02:46, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

The song, 'Kissing in Cars' is on their very first and not popular album,'A Flair for the Dramatic.' — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luce156 (talk • contribs) 18:09, 9 December 2013 (UTC) Nope. I have A Flair for the Dramatic and Kissing in Cars is not on the tracklist. It is a bonus track for Selfish Machines which was available only for download first, but is on the re-recorded version of the album. --Goroth (talk) 20:28, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Request for semi-protecting page?
I have noticed that a large number of recent edits are either destructive or just plain silly. I attribute this to the ease of editing with simply a click, and as such I propose that this page be semi-protected. If the general public isn't able to be trusted with the management of this content, let's do the right thing and close it off to unautoconfirmed users and anons. This way, if people get the urge to edit the page, they can't. Most people won't wait the four days of autoconfirming just to spam, and those who do will do it regardless.

Thanks, Thisisthewill (talk) 20:32, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Please remove label
Can someone please remove the prog rock label? They aren't prog. They are post hardcore. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.168.183.96 (talk) 00:24, 31 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Agreed. I've removed the progressive rock label. I've given a listen to a couple of their albums, and while they have a unique approach to post-hardcore, there are minimal to no prog influences. Kevinjaems (talk) 05:59, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Punk Rock? Progressive Rock?
Is this right?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sergiohsilva100 (talk • contribs) 02:12, 29 October 2012 (UTC) there great dont dis — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eppyum (talk • contribs) 11:58, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Edit request on 25 July 2013
There is some false information on Pierce The Veil. I would like to fix it.

Piercethehorizon (talk) 20:27, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
 * ❌ Please specify what needs to be changed. Best, yeepsi (Talk tonight) 20:37, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Pierce the Veil in magazines
Hello and good evening,

I need help for working on the German-languaged article about the band. Therefore I need articles from magazines like Big Cheese, Kerrang!, Revolver, Rock Sound, Alternative Press and Blunt Magazine for example.

Exactly I need interviews, album recording announcements or tour documentaries (tour reviews). Does anyone has an account on some websites of the named magazines above? Can you please make an document for Word or Open Office with the article, magazine title, page, the writer and issue where the article is in? Or can someone make scans in JPG and send it to me?

I would really appreciate it! Thanks for reading and for helping me with the article. --Goroth (talk) 21:30, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 August 2014
Please change:

"The band hope to release the albun in January 2015."

to:

"The band hope to release the album in January 2015."

68.230.120.90 (talk) 06:06, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done and thanks Cannolis (talk) 06:37, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Emo pop / screamo
Please remove these two genres from the page. Pierce the Veil are not emo at all, nor is there any source claiming they are either of these genres. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.172.151.136 (talk) 06:05, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

2015 Album
I found an excellent interview with Yahoo on PTV in 2015 and the making of their new album. I don't have time to edit this page with the information so I'll leave the article here for whoever does.
 * https://music.yahoo.com/blogs/live-nation/pierce-the-veil-risks-life-and-limb-to-break-through-002740890.html Noreplyhaha (talk) 15:08, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 February 2015
My request is to edit the beginning, they should be classified like so... "Pierce the Veil is an American Post- Hardcore bands including for of the most handsome men on the planet. (Vic Fuentes, Mike Fuentes, Jaime Preciado, Tony Perry.)

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.76.57.117 (talk) 15:18, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

truly an experimental rock band
like swans, the velvet underground, have a nice life, and captain beefheart

are you kidding me — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.142.7.229 (talk) 00:12, 18 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Tagged for CN as source wasn't sufficient. Not that they're post-hardcore either though.-- MA SHAUN IX 04:20, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

thank you for tagging cn, a teenybopper band like them is in no way experimental — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.142.7.229 (talk) 03:01, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

pierce the veil are the best
pierce the veil rock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.129.60.202 (talk) 14:09, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

They really do! DawnlyPrincess (talk) 00:52, 8 October 2015 (UTC) DawnlyPrincess (talk) 00:52, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Request for Edit
There's now a proper page for the guitarist (Tony Perry), so his name should now be linked to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Perry_(guitarist) rather than get redirected back to the band page. In addition, the Awards and Nominations need to be updated with the latest APMAs (2015 : Tony Perry for Best Guitarist (won)) and the Kerrang! awards (Best Fanbase (won))
 * Yes check.svg Done Stickee (talk) 06:42, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Band members
Why did all the band member pages removed? They were helpful and a necessary part of the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Currents.Convulsive.x (talk • contribs) 02:59, 8 August 2015 (UTC) I recreated the Vic Fuentes page and added some more information about him from German Wikipedia. --217.252.158.160 (talk) 19:40, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Vic Fuentes got depressed?
Hi there,

I heard (or likely more read) that Vic Fuentes struggled with depression while working on the new record. And that may be the reason why the release is still unknown. There was a post made by Mike Fuentes about it but it seems to be fake. So anyone said he told in an interview with Alternative Press about writing the album got him depressed but I can't find anything regarding to this in the www. Maybe it is in a printed version of the magazine. Does anyone know anything about it? --Goroth (talk) 12:10, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Vic has struggled with depression for multiple years and throughout all the albums, not just this 321rematch (talk) 04:12, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

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Timeline
I was planning a timeline for the page. As it shows Mike and Vic doing all instruments for formation until the first album was released then put in the Jaime and Tony. Is that a good idea so people know that all four members aren't the forming members? 321rematch (talk) 04:14, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

I don't think it's necessary – the article says "The brothers released the album A Flair for the Dramatic" then "Soon after, Pierce the Veil acquired new members Tony Perry (guitar) and Jaime Preciado (bass)." So it's already clarified that Perry and Preciado weren't in the band until after the release of Flair. Yeepsi (talk) 13:34, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 12 September 2016
put emo on pierce the veil

204.100.156.9 (talk) 14:59, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 15:25, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

Referring to them as a "rock band" instead of a "post-hardcore band"
I think they should be refered to as a rock band because they have been refered to as many genres and are not solely post hardcore Wikipageedittor099 (talk) 15:56, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 March 2018
Mike Fuentes is still a current member of Pierce The Veil. The band is currently on hiatus until he is ready to tour with the band. https://www.altpress.com/news/entry/mike_fuentes_pierce_the_veil_underage_sexual_misconduct_allegations Fearlessedits (talk) 02:28, 6 March 2018 (UTC)


 * I am aware that you are the official Fearless Records account, but nowhere in that source does it say that the band are on hiatus along with it not saying Mike Fuentes is still a member. In fact, the source says the complete opposite, saying that the band is not on hiatus and that Fuentes has stepped down. Also, just so you know, accounts with a person or profession affiliation with the topic are supposed to get blocked from editting the page due to conflict of interest. Issan Sumisu (talk) 08:01, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * WP:COIEDIT indicates that making an edit request like they have done here is the correct way for COI editors to suggest improvements to articles. Iffy★Chat -- 09:40, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I am very aware of that, I was simply notifying them as they have made edits in the past. Issan Sumisu (talk) 16:26, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template.  Sak ura Cart elet Talk 22:51, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 June 2018 - Mark Fuentes
Change Mike Fuentes from past member to current member in Background information section.

Mike is taking a break from the band. Although he is on a break, he is still a current and core member of Pierce The Veil.

Mike's statement: "So, I have decided to take a break and step away from my position in the band in hopes that this will allow my band mates and fans to continue focusing on the music and message that Pierce The Veil stands for."

Band's statement: “As a band, we are respecting Mike’s decision to take break and step away. Unfortunately, without a core member of the band, we will be respectfully withdrawing from the upcoming U.K. tour with All Time Low. We promise our fans that we will be back again very soon.”

In 2019, Vic Fuentes (lead singer) posted an Instagram story with Mike Fuentes playing drums in the background. This might signifies that he's still in the band and contributing for new music.

Source: http://www.nme.com/news/music/pierce-veil-issue-statement-sexual-misconduct-allegations-drummer-mike-fuentes-2177373 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ramonaventuranz (talk • contribs)
 * ❌ They said themselves "without a core member" - so he is not currently a member.  Emphasis on "without". Fish +Karate  13:02, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Mike Fuentes is still a member of the band and was featured in their recent live session of Hold On Till May. — Preceding unsigned comment added by QT713boldtype (talk • contribs) 17:36, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

One user argues that the band is metalcore
Using two sources, one from a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gizmodo_Media_Group website, a series of websites well known for shoddy journalism, and a local newspaper (the parent company in this instance is irrelevant) that doesn't really know musical genres. On the other hand, multiple editors agree that this band is not metalcore. The fact that this even needs to be brought up on the talk page is laughable, as the band is clearly not metalcore despite what ONE wikipedia editor thinks. Cblake92 (talk) 22:48, 2 August 2018 (UTC)


 * The A.V. Club (which you simply mentioned as being Gizmodo) has been discussed at Discussion:The A.V. Club and it was decided to be reliable. And, if a source's parent company is irrelevant then why did you just judge the A.V. Club's reliability on its parent company, when it's actually considered reliable. Additionally, there's more sources to back this up, NBC described them as "SD's metalcore sons" and Rolling Stone described the song Circles as fusing "chugging metalcore riffs, sweeping arena-rock melodies and sugary pop-punk vocals". Also, Fuse describes them as "metalcore favorites Pierce the Veil". This doesn't seem at all like a stretch to me as it's mentioned on the post-hardcore page that many bands begun taking a lot of influence from metalcore, and most of the bands that do that, have metalcore mentioned on their pages, see: Ice Nine Kills, Blessthefall and Escape the Fate. Here's the cite from the post-hardcore page, in which Pierce the Veil is cited as one of the notable bands taking significant influence from metalcore https://www.bandwagon.asia/articles/rising-above-the-noise-the-history-and-evolution-of-post-hardcore Issan Sumisu (talk) 05:20, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

You act as though big news websites know anything about this umbrella of music, and you grasp desperately at straws with your halfbaked sources. But whatever. YOU want to call them metalcore, you can. I give up, this band really isn't worth arguing about with some kid on the internet any longer. I'm not the one who doesn't understand the difference between post-hardcore and metalcore. Cblake92 (talk) 23:24, 4 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Hey, I'm not trying to cause any confrontation, I'm sorry if I caused some kind of distress to you, it's just redundant at the end of the day, genres don't matter in actual life. However, I would prefer you didn't resort to name calling. Issan Sumisu (talk) 07:39, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

compare ptv to the 2 Defining metal core groups: August Burns Red and As I Lay dying. Whoever said ptv belongs in that sub genre is free to Run and hide in shame. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:681:300:43A0:593D:E2AA:2680:A527 (talk) 16:50, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Band is not prog, emo, or experimental rock at all
why is this staying? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.36.138.147 (talk) 15:14, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Because it's what the sources referenced in the article's 'Musical style' section say! JezGrove (talk) 16:31, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 August 2022
Under heading: Upcoming fifth studio album (2018–present). It was announced by Vic Fuentes at a guest appearance at Emo Nite LA on August 5 that the band had completed recording for their fifth album. Source from official Emo Nite TikTok account https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMNtt2MNe/ 31.187.2.140 (talk) 01:33, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.  Madeline  ( part of me ) 09:49, 29 August 2022 (UTC)