Talk:Pierre Abraham Lorillard

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Now that I am thinking about it, I also tend to believe that the tombstone shaped like a snuffbox is that of Pierre Lorillard II. If you agree with this, could we remove that nomination from Pierre Abraham DYK and submit as a possible alternate DYK for Pierre II. However I have no objection to leaving it as an alternate for Pierre Abraham Lorillard. I was just taking it off BELMONT PLAYGROUND notes and its a bit confusing which "Pierre Lorillard" they are referring to pertaining to the tombstone. Whichever you feel is best I will go along with. --Doug talk 15:25, 21 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi, Doug, and thank you for the DYK nomination. I see you saw the summary of the edit in which I took the tombstone out of this article. If this St Peter's Church was founded in 1840, and if Pierre Abraham Lorillard was 'Peter Louillard', a French Protestant, which we gather he probably was, then the second Peter looks to me like the most likely candidate for the snuffbox tomb... but that Belmont page just doesn't make it clear who it has in mind, so it seems to me we can't really use it to cite a hook for DYK. Perhaps you could research the monumental inscription on the grave? It must be a notable one! Xn4  ( talk ) 15:39, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Great idea! Couldn't find an e-mail address for them, so came up with another idea. I have asked a volunteer from Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness in the New York area if they would take a picture of the tombstone for me. We'll see what happens. --Doug talk 17:49, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Also wrote a letter to the church to see if they can give me the inscription on the tompstone. --Doug talk 12:06, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

According to this site St. Peter's Church is the oldest Roman Catholic parish in New York State, dating to 1785. Since Pierre Abraham Lorillard died in 1776 there is a possibility it could be him, however I still lean towards his son as more likely. Hopefully in my research I'll find the answer. --Doug talk 12:19, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Now if the Roman Catholic Church was permitted to function during periods of the administration of Governor Thomas Dongan then this places the time period for the church before 1715. --Doug talk


 * In 1760, Chatham Street was not yet Chatham Street, but I don't know its contemporary name: I linked it to its modern equivalent, which offers no history, however.--Wetman (talk) 04:30, 22 July 2008 (UTC)