Talk:Pierre Bérégovoy

The author of the article is clearly disturbed by the "theory" Bérégovoy was assassinated. Yet many articles in much of the French press suggest that political assassination is not a rarety under the Vth French Republic. Numerous leading politicians are either thought to have been assassinated or else have died under mysterious circumstances, starting under the first president of the Vth Republic, General de Gaulle (Ben Barka, the Moroccan opposition leader), then under the third president Giscard d'Estaing (de Broglie co-founder of the Republican Party with Giscard d'Estaing, Fontanet, ex-Minister, Robert Boulin long-serving Gaullist minister known for his integrity and possible future Prime Minister) followed by those whose demise under the fourth president Mitterand led also to a swirl of unsavory rumors (the list is rather long but it includes a number of Mitterand's "friends" such as, apart from those mentioned in the Wikipedia article on Bérégovoy, Réné Bousquet, close friend and backer of Mitterand, ex-head of the Vichy police, Patrice Pelat an eager financial dealer, and Jean-Edern Hallier, author and Mitterand critic, who was meant to have died by falling off his bicycle). It is not clear on what basis the author claims an intimate knowledge of French public opinion.

His career
The article only briefly mentions the career of Pierre Bérégovoy, almost all the article is about his suicide. I do not know much about mr Bérégovoy, but someone who does should write something about his career. J-C V 00:59, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Pierre Bérégvoy's name
In the introduction it says Pierre Eugène Bérégovoy. In the death section it says Guy Pierre Bérégovoy. What is correct?


 * I don't know where that "Guy" came from - I've removed it. Thermaland 20:49, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

The Death section
This section badly needs references as it is a controversial subject. I'll take a look and see if I can find anything. As it is now, the section almost uncritically presents the murder theory as the true one. I have already removed some sentences that seemed to be original research.

I would be very helpful if somebody knowledgeable about the subject could take a look at it! J-C V (talk) 04:03, 26 January 2008 (UTC)


 * It’s not only on the interpretation of the facts, but on the facts themselves. For example, he was by all accounts killed by a single bullet; two shots were heard, but the first one was probably Bérégovoy trying the gun out. 81.249.4.184 (talk) 21:56, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia says French prime minister may have been assassinated!
An anonymous user inserted the claim that the autopsy found TWO bullets in Bérégovoy's head. This was inserted in 2006, along with a paragraph of other details, NONE of which were sourced. This unsourced claim has remained in the article for TEN YEARS. I've deleted it and will be happy to delete it again and again until a reliable source is cited. Unbelievable. Rgr09 (talk) 21:27, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

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Slow edit war over the death of Bérégovoy
A section on the death of Bérégovoy has been deleted and re-added numerous times over the last several weeks. The basic content in dispute is: 1) whether Bérégovoy had two head-wounds or one; 2) the unsourced hence POV statement "he was a very courageous man" added without source or reference to any aspect of Bérégovoy's life or personality; 3) the use of at least one non-RS in the reference.

The non-RS source is a self-published work "Unlawful Killing" which more or less regurgitates the Diana-was-murdered conspiracy theory, throwing in Bérégovoy to boot as a victim of one or another of Diana's killers. Such works are not acceptable as sources for WP articles, please read WP::RS carefully to understand why. The POV statement needs to be attributed to a person, your own personal opinion is not appropriate here, and when you attribute this quote, you need to fit it into the article, don't just quote someone as saying this without explaining how, when, or where.

The claim Bérégovoy had two head wounds has been in the article before, with references to non-RS websites. The new addition this time has a reference to a France 3 report by Regis Guillon from 1993 which apparently does make this claim. Every other news account I have read states ONE bullet was fired (e.g. The Independent, May 2, 1993; New York Times May 3, 1993; The Telegraph, Aug 10, 2003; The Guardian, May 4, 2003.) To elevate the France 3 report over all of these other reports is a kind of backward WP:REDFLAG where "multiple high-quality sources" are rejected in favor of one unexplained aberration.

Do not keep just reinserting, do not add extra paragraphs into the article, explain here why you take this one report and reject the others. "Unlawful Killing" is useless as support for this claim. Rgr09 (talk) 15:51, 31 October 2018 (UTC)