Talk:Pierre Berton

Pierre Berton (playwright)
There is also a 19th century French playwright by this name. Any suggestion on how to sort out the disambiguation? I'm guessing the Canadian Pierre Berton is the more famous, so we should create a Pierre Berton (disambiguation) page, link to it here, and leave the current article where it is. -- Jmabel | Talk 01:48, Feb 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * Sounds reasonable to me. Something like the header of the Micheal Jackson page would be appropriate. PullUpYourSocks 19:29, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

innaccuracies
It should be mentioned that many of the figures he cites in some of his books (Marching as to War and Vimy come to mind) are not the same as other major historians. Just thought I'd point it out.

Cam 04:52, 3 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Cam - Pierre never claimed to be an academic historian; his histories are popular histories.

first of all, let's learn spelling - inaccuracies, single n. secondly, let's take the meaning of inaccuracy. not certain what you mean by "many of the figures . . . are not the same as other major historians." do you mean the interpretation of their character/deeds/etc? or do you mean that col. so-and-so is not mentioned by historian A and thus suspect? whatever you mean should be laid out in clear, unambiguous english, supported by facts. am looking forward to your response.

quote query
Berton said something to the effect of: Toronto does the least with the most, while Regina does the most with the least. I included this in the Saskatchewan in popular culture article but have not been able to find an appropriate source. Does anyone know from where this quote comes? Mumun 無文 16:47, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

V-J Day
minor point. while the signing of the formal instrument of surrender was certainly in september, berton's and everyone else's chance of seeing combat vanished in early august.Toyokuni3 (talk) 15:36, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Fired from Maclean's?
I just read this, and thought it could be included in the article: "When journalist Pierre Berton wronte in Maclean's that he hoped his daughters would have sex in a comfortable bed rather than the back seat of a car, the resulting backlash led to his being fired." -- Bora Laskin: Bringing Law to Life, Philip Girard, 2005,p.350. It gives a footnote for the Globe and Mail, 1 Dec 2004. --Padraic 01:21, 9 March 2009 (UTC) kos nanat

Lack of reliable references
I've demoted this article to a start category, because it has minimal, reliable references. I provided one reliable inline citation, on his birthplace. It is from his two-page obituary from the Toronto Star newspaper on 1 December 2004. Most of the rest of the article is unreferenced, but could easily be rectified through such free resources as the Toronto Public Library's Proquest database that contains both the Toronto Star and The Globe and Mail newspaper archives online. I'm busy with other articles right now, but someone should do some research and add proper inline citations where needed, which is most of the article. Abebenjoe (talk) 17:17, 22 May 2010 (UTC)


 * The article has many references added since 2010 so I am removing the Refimprove tag. -M.Nelson (talk) 05:01, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

"Laird of Kleinburg"
Berton used to have this affectionate journalistic nickname. However when I check the web for it, the only reference I find is a film review that I had forgotten writing myself in 1999. Does someone have a citation for that nickname?

Varlaam (talk) 06:23, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

The Ubyssey
Hey, I notice some one wants a citation for Berton's time at the Ubyssey. Starting in October of 1939, you can always find his name in the "reportorial staff" section of the paper in their archives from that period: http://www.library.ubc.ca/archives/pdfs/ubyssey/UBYSSEY_1939_10_03.pdf —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.180.233.208 (talk) 19:47, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Cremation
I have removed "He was creamated not buried but alot of do think he was buried so get the word out he was not" Statement was unsourced and is not phrased appropriately however I copy it here in case a source is found. -- KenWalker | Talk 15:58, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Timeline
I edited the timeline section for various dates that were incorrect and for incorrect grammar. The source I used was the timeline at pierreberton.com, although on that website they refer to The Smug Minority as The Smug Majority, so it's odd they would get that wrong. 22 March 2012 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.197.71.189 (talk) 18:08, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Why no mention of Pierre Berton's wife, five children, family life, professional colleagues?
Pierre Burton was forthcoming about such details, including the arrival at their family home of Vicki Gabereau when she moved from Vancouver to Toronto. There was no hiding of such matters and there is plenty of published discussion of them. Masalai (talk) 22:54, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

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Page structure
The article has many sections on the same level ranging from fairly specific and isolated careersteps (Military career, War correspondent in Korea, Editor in Toronto) to some much broader 'roles' Berton had (Public intellectual, Historian). I think it would benefit from some proper re-ordering but I did not feel comfortable in changing it too much myself. Instead I only moved the 'Decline' part to 'Public intellectual' as this seems to be closely related to that role. --MichielN (talk) 13:05, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

reference info missing
the first mention of his book is mckillop etc. where's all the required title, isbn# etc? 70.31.166.89 (talk) 21:33, 23 December 2022 (UTC)