Talk:Pierre Gemayel

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Fpr a December 2004 deletion debate over this page see Votes for deletion/Pierre Gemayel

This article is not NPOV. It is propaganda. It is directly lifted, word for word from: http://www.falangist.com/pierre.htm

John Ball

Not a copyvio, IMO
The original text (not mine), which User:Morwen deleted, was a copyvio, a plagiarism of the said article. I substantially reworked the article, rewriting it in my own words, adding material from miscellaneous sources. I think my text is significantly different from the original for it not to be a copyvio.

I am open to differences of opinion on this matter, however. If no consensus can be reached, I propose that the article be deleted - in its entirety - and I will write an entirely new one. David Cannon 05:17, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, I think the latest version was still a copyvio; I stopped checking about halfway through, but in the first half, the only difference between it and the site cited in that section was the alternate names listed in brackets in the first line, and that half doesn't seem to have changed since the first upload. Possibly there was some mistake in the copyvio procedures. - Mustafaa 11:28, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)


 * I could be entirely mistaken. I know that I uploaded something I copied; I intended to rewrite it, and (until now) I sincerely believed that I had done so.  I may have overlooked it.  (Uploading something in order to rewrite it is something I wouldn't dare do now, but I was a newbie to wikipedia at that time).  If it is the case that it's a copyvio, then I'd say that the article in its current form is best deleted, allowing either me or some other interested person to write a new article from scratch. David Cannon 12:09, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Made a few corrections. For example: The town's name is "Bikfaya" and not "Bifkaya". Also, it is generally believed that Syria and its allies in Lebanon were behind Bashir's assassination (just as they were behind the Hariri assassination as the current UN investigation into that issue is expected to claim soon).

Son assassinated? Believe it to be his grandson.
Just in case someone jumps on this, it seems his son, or someone of the same name, was assassinated in Beirut today. It is NOT this man (since he died some years ago). We should start a new article.--Daysleeper47 14:22, 21 November 2006 (UTC) Grandson.


 * Yeah, it's his grandson - the son of his son. David Cannon 22:59, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Gemayel 1936 Olympics
I've deleted the reference to Gemayel having led his team at the 1936 Olympics. There was no Lebanese team, and neither is there any mention of Gemayel or Jmayel or Jemmayel or anything similar in the list of competitors. I've written a book on these Games, so I know my stuff!

"illegal" Syrian presence
I removed the word "illegal" because the Syrian presence in Lebanon WAS NOT illegal because Elias Sarkis the President of Lebanon personally requested the military intervention of Syria and Syria was given a mandate by the Arab League, which approved of Syria's role in Lebanon.


 * United Nations deemed that the Syrian occupation, or as some say 'presence' is and was illegal and a violation of UN security council resolution 520. It also deemed that Palestinian and Israeli military occupation was illegal
 * --Eternalsleeper (talk) 11:19, 30 October 2008 (UTC)