Talk:Piggy bank/Archive 1

NatWest
Was removing this really justified? (sorry, i just browsed through my 'contributions' list and someone had removed the paragraph...). AFAIK, the campaign for the NatWest 'piggies' ended years ago, and many of the pigs are now collecters items. Can someone confirm this? Karl 21:29, 28 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Absolutely right Karl. Like so many of the "IT'S POLITICAL CORRECTNESS GONE MAD!!!!" stories, this one isn't actually true . I've removed the external link to the offending article. Catpig 11:30, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Er, actually re-reading your comment, possibly we're not talking about the same thing at all! I'm talking about the link to banks withdrawing piggy banks because they feared a backlash from offended Muslim customers. Which is palpable nonsense.Catpig 11:37, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

economic: piggy bank=complementari asosiet

Merger proposal
--JKeene 21:58, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I oppose a merger with Money box. A piggy bank is a very unique type of object that is different than other money storage containers. I added Money box to the See also section, which I think is better than a merger. --JHP 01:12, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose - As above, a "piggy bank" is a different concept with its own unique place in culture not to mention the fact it would probably get more hits than "money box" alone. Referencing the piggy bank article in the See also section of the money box article would be fine and "money box" itself should be wiki'd as a noun phrase in the opening line of the piggy bank article. Finally, any duplicate generic "money box" content (i.e. not specific to the concept of a "piggy bank") should be purged from this article and carried over to "money box" if it's not already there. Dick G 04:30, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose - The piggy bank has a similar function, but is a distinct concept with its own history. Based on the comments so far, I'm going to remove the merger proposal.
 * They seem to have been merged regardless, which is ridiculous - A Piggy bank is a TYPE of Money box - Oppose --Kurtle (talk) 19:01, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Rachel
I live within a mile and work within a block of the Pike Place Market pig and I have never seen nor heard of locals putting money in the pig nor rubbing its snout for luck, nor have I done so myself.


 * I have removed this line. It sounded like a personal observation and was uncited anyway. The rest of the section could do with cites too. -- Escape Orbit  (Talk) 14:19, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

'Rachel, the official mascot of Pike Place Market in Seattle, Washington' ... 'The Pike Place Market's unofficial bronze mascot, Rachel' - Is it official or unofficial? Is it actually particularly notable to have in the article? --82.70.156.254 (talk) 23:11, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

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"The Piggy Bank for The 21st Century," otherwise known as The Money Savvy Pig changed people's notion of the traditional piggy bank icon forever. In 2001 Susan Beacham of Lake Forest, Illinois, USA invented a translucent piggy bank where the internal cavity is divided into four sections, with the chambers marked on the outside of the bank for SAVE, SPEND, DONATE and INVEST. The idea was so novel that it was awarded two patents. unsigned comment by User:210.200.105.231
 * I agree. I've removed the paragraph. Coffee 18:03, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

If I may I would venture another theory - I have no evidence except that it seems to make explain the 1500 years of history history rather better than an etymological theory that goes no further than 500 years and has no link with indonesia at all. I asked myself what did renaissance European Christians have in common with Indonesians up to 1500 years previous? One thing is trade links with Jewish and Arab traders from the Arabian peninsula and east Africa. What do both arabs and jews have in common with regard to pigs? They both consider them to be unclean. If Arab and Jewish traders had developed a strong reputation and shrewd traders and money lenders it may have been felt whether in jest or for more xenophobic reasons that money kept in a pig was symbolically safe from jewish and arab business interests. This may also have been linked in to the idea of investing scraps in feeding a pig. Likewise given the antisemitism and anti-islamic sentiment prevailing in renaissance Europe, this may have been popular. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.130.121.243 (talk) 01:31, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * If by "Arabs" you mean Muslims, then maybe (although it's just your theory with no evidence to back it up). There are Arab non-Muslims, for example Christians in Lebanon, many of whom happily eat pork if available. 74.59.100.24 (talk) 21:22, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

'Pug' rather than 'pig'?
Pug, according to the Free Dictionary is "Clay ground and kneaded with water into a plastic consistency for forming bricks or pottery." The OED says "(usually as adjective pugged) Work (clay) into a soft, plastic condition suitable for making bricks or pottery, without air pockets: bricks set in pugged clay"

I suggest it was originally a 'pug' bank, and usage, or a cutesy pun, caused the change. 121.44.243.79 (talk) 09:03, 26 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Pig (container) may have been pronounced pug, but it's the same word, originally spelt pygg in 1450, but with several variant spellings. The OED suggests that the oldest usage (1450) was possibly the skin of the animal used for wine.  The clay usage is much more recent and of unknown origin, but it cannot be the source of the older word.    D b f i r s   17:46, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

The reason for the name is obvious to anyone with a farming background. In the past most rural families would keep a pig, which would be fed scraps over the course of the year, then slaughtered at the onset of winter. Same principle with these money boxes, which would be 'fed' pennies over an extended period then smashed when full, or when the family was in need of money. DancesWithGrues (talk) 02:59, 15 February 2017 (UTC)