Talk:Pigs and Battleships

Here are some proposed changes for this page. Feel free to post any opinions or recomendations Outline: Plot – standard outline of the events of the film Production – Information about Kazu Otsuka’s book, Shohei Imamura and what he was doing during during the production of the film and any thoughts he has on the film Reception – post information about the LA times review, New York times reviews, any other reviews. Eliminate the awards section and move the award into the reception section

Bibliography: http://www.criterion.com/films/1428-pigs-and-battleships "Pigs and Battleships"  The Criterion Collection  -- has some general info Kim, Nelson. "Shohei Imamura." Senses of Cinema Issue 27 (July 2003) Web. . -- some details about Imamura’s life and body of work Quandt, James. Shohei Imamura. Toronto: Toronto International Film Festival Group, 1997. Print. – contains a chapter that focuses on Pigs and Battleships and one other movie "Movie Capsule : 'Pigs And Battleships': 1961 Japanese Film." Rev. of Pigs and Battleships. Los Angeles Times 31 Dec. 1986 Web. --quasireview from 1986 to use in the reception section Canby, Vincent. "FILM: IMAMURA'S 'PIGS AND BATTLESHIPS'" Rev. of Pigs and Battleships. New York Times 9 July 1986 Web. -- another review from 1986 for the reception section Lnyvert (talk) 02:17, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Lnyvert (talk) 20:52, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Article urgently needs reworking
Article urgently needs reworking due to a) subjective revisionist statements (with questionable references) in Historical context section and b) multiple cases of subjective interpretation instead of neutral synopsis in Plot section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.203.34.70 (talk) 21:22, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Transferred article section "Historical context"
I transferred the section "Historical context" from the article to the talk page as section seemingly does not conform with WP:NPOV and WP:OR, also only marginally connected to film's content. Maybe other users see a way of improving this section so that it does conform and want to discuss it here. Robert Kerber (talk) 16:39, 31 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Japan had prospered in the 1920s, but the Great Depression caused many countries to take protectionist measures, which hurt a Japan that had become dependent on exports as well as imported foreign oil. Japan sought to expand its influence through military expansion in the late 1930s and allied with Nazi Germany.


 * However, World War II dealt a significant blow to Japanese society. Nearly 3 million Japanese died, and the country was left with reduced production, significant inflation and widespread starvation. American forces occupied the country, with General Douglas MacArthur in charge, and drafted a new constitution as well as demilitarizing the country, leaving it to only a small self-defense force.  The occupation officially ended in 1952, but American military bases remained and became an object of protest. The 1957 Girard Incident, in which a Japanese woman was shot on an American military base, spurred further protest. In May 1960, less than a year prior to the release of the film, Japanese Prime Minister Kishi Nobusuke sparked the largest protest movement in Japan's history by having opposition lawmakers physically removed from the National Diet by police and ramming through a revision of the U.S.-Japan Security Treaty with only members of his own Liberal Democratic Party present. The resulting Anpo Protests reached enormous size, forcing Kishi to resign in disgrace and leading to the cancellation of a planned visit to Japan by U.S. President Dwight D. Eisenhower, dealing a significant blow to U.S.-Japan relations. However, the new Security Treaty did come into force, permanently locking into place the presence of U.S. military bases in Japan.


 * Meanwhile, the American occupation had led to a resurgence of the Yakuza in Japan. The policy of food rationing strengthened the black market, bringing them money. Disarmament of state forces allowed them to operate with little concern for law enforcement.  A new type called the Gurentai had emerged, who were known for their brutality and willingness to use violence against civilians. U.S. Military Intelligence aided the Yakuza as opponents of communism.  For example, they secured the release of prominent crime figure Yoshio Kodama in exchange for a promise that he would oppose communism.  He became one of the most powerful figures in post-war Japan and acted as a link between the Yakuza and top level government officials.

Original screenplay vs. novel adaptation
Linda Ehrlich in her essay Erasing and Refocusing: Two Films of the Occupation (Pigs and Battleships and MacArthur's Children) and the IMDb state that Yamanouchi's screenplay is based on a novel by Kazu Ōtsuka. As no other source, including the film's titles, mentions a literary original, there has most likely been a confusion with producer Kano Ōtsuka or another kind of error. Robert Kerber (talk) 07:24, 8 August 2021 (UTC)