Talk:Pilatus P-2

I am worried about some of the claims made in the second para. It says that the P.2 u/c and the guns of the armament trainer version came from Bf.109s. Now in 1945 there were a lot of the latter about, but this assertion needs proof. If true, the legs would have needed swapping to get the wider track, which sounds a lot of bother. Likewise the calibre of the guns used was 7.9 mm, as on early Bf.109s, but were they the same model? If so, were they really from Bf.109s, of just from the same maker? Claims of borrowings are common and not always true.

I suggest a revised second para, partly because of the above and partly because the current version spends too much time giving data that is in the specs below. There are some more general points to be made. I've also got a fairly reliable contemporary (1954) source and a recent one to add to the references and flesh out some specs. Of course, specs out of JAWA c.1950 would trump these.TSRL (talk) 22:00, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Afterthought: how reliable is this Orbis source? It is often quoted, but how close does it get to primary (manufacturer's) sources? Or does it just repeat the stories that permeate aviation websites?TSRL (talk) 22:15, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Different sources give slightly different numbers, all in the mid 50s, of P-2s built. There are two obvious causes of confusion, the static P-2-02 frame and the change in numbering by the Swiss AF. You'd think Pilatus would know how many they built but one of their pages say 26x production 05s (everyone seems agreed on this} but 25x 06s (one less than Wiki). Their "chronicle" page though says 53 production a/c in all (one more than Wiki).  Given that, I went with the rather careful count-up, critically with c/n numbers as well as SAF registrations given at www.samoloty.ow.pl.  So 2x26 +3 =55.TSRL (talk) 13:12, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

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