Talk:Pimple

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I see no reason for this page to redirect to acne, because acne is not the only cause of pimples. The acne article also does not discuss what a pimple is (i.e., how it is formed). -- Slowking Man 23:41, Jun 2, 2004 (UTC)

Although acne can cause pimples, pimples are the subject at hand on this page, in order to prevent from endless sideffects or causes, treatment ect... being on the same page, for easier direction. Specificness, to reduce amount of topics getting of the main subject.

To help start this page off, I could provide a picture of a pimple if you like. --huwr 11:09, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)


 * I think this article definently needs a picture of a pimple, with one with white top and one without :).
 * IMO that wikipedia as this, which other sources are too 'old' to have, is one of the things that makes wikipedia cool. FYI neither encarta nor britannica has an article on pimples, and certainly not instructions for popping pimples :). I mean it is right that wikipedia has this article in the sincerest sense of the word; any encyclopedia which doesn't have an article on a subject which is as relevant to everyday life as pimples is deficient. Thue | talk 18:27, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

"Stress does not cause acne either" Well, not directly, but stess can effect the hormone balance and the production of oils in the skin, potentially contributing to acne...at least according to the main article on acne. I don't know the truth, but on of the articles is wrong.


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don't move, although I agree with the last comment at the very bottom. &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 10:38, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

pimple...
this page should be redirected to sebaceous cyst, because that's what a pimple is. Dreamer.redeemer 22:42, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Requested move
Pimple → Sebaceous cyst – for accuracy.

Support Votes

 * Support Dreamer.redeemer 01:14, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Oppose Votes

 * Oppose. Wikipeida uses most common names for titles. '  (Feeling chatty? ) (Edits!) 05:11, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Oppose per both Apostrophe and Charlene.vicker's arguments. 24.17.48.241 07:58, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Oppose Use English. Septentrionalis 18:15, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Oppose Use good clear English. QuartierLatin1968 [[Image:Red flag waving transparent.png|20px|El bien mas preciado es la libertad]] 18:43, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Oppose For reasons mentioned below, i also oppose the move. Aujlakam 08:53, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Oppose As above and below – they're not the same. E Pluribus Anthony | talk | 19:07, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Discussion
For the sake of accuracy. maybe they need to be merged? i'm a novice editor, my apologies. on a further note, the zit disambiguation page seems unnecessary. Dreamer.redeemer 01:17, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Pimples and sebaceous cysts are not the same thing
I vote a very, very strong no on medical reasons. A pimple is NOT the same thing as a sebaceous cyst, not at all. A sebaceous cyst is a collection of SEBUM (skin oil); a pimple is a collection of PUS (white blood cells and bacteria).

You can very easily have a pimple without sebum. Any collection of walled-off pus in the lower layer of the skin can be called a pimple, no matter what causes it.

You can also very easily have a sebaceous cyst without pus. Sometimes they grow to enormous proportions and have to be excised, but they never grow a head and never contain liquid pus.

It's true that many common pimples contain both, but that absolutely does not mean that a pimple and a sebaceous cyst are the same thing. Not by a long shot. --Charlene.vickers 05:18, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Then feel free to contribute to the article, using prefferably peer reviewed sources...? Dreamer.redeemer 20:26, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

in my research among peer reviewed sources i've found nothing on pimple or sebaceous cyst for that matter. pus is a mixture of dead white blood cells and liquor puris (of which i could find no definition) that exists to FIGHT bacteria. Charlene, i think you're mistaken, for instance, in one of the two pages i referenced it says

"Sebaceous Cyst are skin growths that contains a mixture of sebum (oil) and skin proteins. They generally appears as small, growing swelling on the face, scalp or back. A whitehead is actually a tiny sebaceous cyst. These nodules fell firm but movable and rarely hurt unless they become infected."

and "The skin has tiny glands under the surface which makes sebum. This is the 'oil' that makes the skin smooth. If a gland's duct (channel) becomes blocked the sebum is still made. This then fills up the blocked pore to form a cyst. The matter inside the cyst has the appearance of toothpaste. Sebaceous cysts tend to develop in teenagers because of an interaction among hormones, sebum, and bacteria. During puberty, the glands in the skin produce excessive sebum. In skin that is prone to acne, the sebum and dead skin cells clog the hair follicles and form comedones, or clogged pores. A comedone may break through the pore wall underneath the skin and release its contents. This causes a pimple or pustule. If this substance is released deep into the skin it will cause a sebaceous cyst."

i understand this is only one source and not (clearly) peer reviewed, so it's not worth much.

further, in the other site i listed it states "Sebaceous cysts tend to develop in teenagers because of an interaction among hormones, sebum, and bacteria. During puberty, the glands in the skin produce excessive sebum. In skin that is prone to acne, the sebum and dead skin cells clog the hair follicles and form comedones, or clogged pores. A comedone may break through the pore wall underneath the skin and release its contents. This causes a pimple or pustule. If this substance is released deep into the skin it will cause a sebaceous cyst."

this seems to indicate that a comedone is a precurser to a sebaceous cyst.

at this point i can find no clear distinction between the many different cutaneous lesions, so i agree that a pimple and a sebaceous cyst may not be the same thing. but at this point there is no information indicating otherwise. i'm open to any solid, SOURCED information.

if the policy is to have common names as article titles rather than a redirect to the actual name, i guess i can't fight that. but reasonably it should be the other way around. if i type in shin and get back tibia, well, i've already learned something new. Dreamer.redeemer 21:26, 2 February 2006 (UTC)


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ACNE?
Why are there "misconceptions about ACNE" in an article about a PIMPLE? There is a link to acne, thats good enough.Slasher600
 * I was thinking the same thing. This is covered in the acne article, and per the discussion above, pimples and acne are not the same... --Kevin McManus 18:51, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

If "Pimple" is to have its own section, apart from Acne, this section should focus on pimple-specific topics (eg techniques for popping pimples, implements used, etc). While this kind of information may not be covered in traditional encyclopedias, it is certainly of interest to a substantial percentage of the population. As Slasher600 mentioned above, the "misconceptions about acne" article seems quite out of place. Adam Sharp


 * I've deleted all the info about acne leaving just pimple-specific info. BE BOLD. Abc30 01:28, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

external link
I'd add this myself, but dont want to get done for spam since I'm a new user... http://www.acnetreatmentinfo.org/info/The_Life_of_a_Pimple   - lovecider 4th may 2006

I added this because it supplements the content. Just because there is adsense doesnt mean its evil. - lovecider 28th June 2006

Yes I agree with you having adsense on a site does not mean that its useless infact another site http://www.geoamaan.com/index.php?View=entry&CategoryID=7&EntryID=37 Top Ten Tips For Getting Rid Of Acne, has so much informative material on acne and tips on how to prevent them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.2.162.253 (talk) 06:25, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

Pimples and sugar
Is there a link between a sugary diet and the formation of pimples? This may be an just an urban rumor. Wpell (talk) 07:37, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes, having a unhealthy diet will cause more abundant pimples. Some foods that cause pimples if eaten excessively are meat, sugar, aspartame, table salt, corn syrup (whether high fructose or not), and anything fried. There is probably more, but I don't know them all. BuBBLeSGiRL209 (talk) 18:01, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Alcohol and pimples
I just reverted some edit which said "And when you have pimples, put alcholol on them, it dries them up" (all in uppercase.) Does alcohol really dry out pimples, or is it the work of a vandal? Scott Gall 02:37, 16 February 2007 (UTC) Really I think that would leave scars.......


 * If it was in all caps, then it sounds like an accidental vandal. Abcw12 (talk) 02:36, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Home treatments
I think that home treatments should be added to the article, the article provided only contains over the counter and prescribed medical treatments however there is a long and varied list of home treatments ranging from the use of alcohol or toothpaste which dries out the pimples. The use of toothpaste featured in the British programe "Brainiac" and from personal experiance it is fairly affective. I am sure that local treatments exist all over the world, some of which should be explained in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.46.31.227 (talk) 17:40, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Home treatment for pimples. 1) Put little quantity of colgate white toothpaste on pimple's tip.Apply it with a Q-tip. Don't use your fingers.Let it dry a little before going to bed and the next morning wash it off.It may not be gone but it will have dried out and be smaller. Don't stop there, keep using it every night for good results

2) Do facial twice in a month. 3) Mix a little baking soda with water and apply gently to your pimples, let it dry for 30 minutes. Then rinse face with cold water, try it daily for a week and see if it helps clear your acne. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.164.36.75 (talk) 11:18, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

I heard about using steam also... Put boiling water in a bucket then get a towel... Put your face in the bucket and then cover your head with the bucket.. so the vapour doesn't escape... It works almost immediately. Just do it for like a week, dry your face then use an oil free lotion on your face VictorCreator (talk) 16:50, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Shitter
Could someone tell me why the word "shitter" redirects here ? I've never heard of a pimple being called that. Hiyahiyahiya 02:22, 17 March 2007 (UTC)


 * redirects to rectum, but oh well... quite funny :P Bkkeim2000 06:12, 7 April 2007 (UTC)


 * seems to be a word with many meanings. where i live it means toilet — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:642:C481:4640:4DF8:9847:6292:642B (talk) 07:59, 13 June 2021 (UTC)


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The result of the proposal was as per strong points of 76.214.199.83 and PhoenixMourning David Ruben Talk 22:00, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Proposed Merge with Acne?

 * Oppose Acne isn't the sole cause of pimples. Seems obvious enough to me. Organizing whitehead, blackhead, and pimples as perhaps skin blemishes. . . well that'd be something else to discuss. --76.214.199.83 (talk) 03:26, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose as per above anon comment  WEBURIEDOURSECRETS  INTHEGARDEN  17:42, 26 December 2007 (UTC)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by WeBuriedOurSecretsInTheGarden (talk • contribs)
 * Oppose. Acne is a group of pimples.  If we're attempting to merge this, then we might was well merge finger into hand. phoenixMourning ( talk/contribs ) 19:17, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
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Popping Zits
why is no mention made of the most common method of dealing with zits, squeezing them until they pop, and the dangers therof (permeent scaring, etc)? I know this isn't a how to guide (supposedly), but it certainly should at least mention the matter to some small degree, at very least. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.5.249.85 (talk) 20:31, 19 November 2012 (UTC)


 * The above has a point. Besides, many find popping pimples fun and actively cultivate pimples and try to find mates with acne for popping, especially bacne with both many whiteheads for popping and blackheads for extruding.  Indeed, this leads to the acne-grooming hypothesis:


 * The reason humans have more acne than other apes is possibly because as humans became less hairy as we moved from rainforests to savannas, he had fewer ectoparasites, but grooming is important, so we evolved a greater tendency to acne so that pimple-popping replaced grooming. All was well until dermatologists convinced people that they must pay dermatologists for acne treatment.  According to this hypothesis, up until modern times, family friends, and lovers would enjoy popping each others' pimples.


 * The above paragraph deserves its own section, so I shall spin it off. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.102.233.65 (talk) 07:30, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

zits
To the best of my knowledge, "zit" is slang, whereas "pimple" is a standard word. I think this should be indicated, rather than giving them as equivalents. 64.53.191.77 (talk) 21:23, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

The hypothesis that pimple popping is a substitute for glooming.
The reason humans have more acne than other apes is possibly because as humans became less hairy as we moved from rainforests to savannas, he had fewer ectoparasites, but grooming is important, so we evolved a greater tendency to acne so that pimple-popping replaced grooming. All was well until dermatologists convinced people that they must pay dermatologists for acne treatment. According to this hypothesis, up until modern times, family friends, and lovers would enjoy popping each others' pimples. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.102.233.65 (talk) 07:32, 8 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Do you have a source for this hypothesis? Tornado chaser (talk) 18:24, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

Foundations 2 2019, Group 8a goals
Nzargham (talk) 21:00, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
 * 1) Expand on common OTCs used (brief mechanism of action of each and different efficacies according to pimple type)
 * 2) Describe various categories of prescription medications (separate by med classes)
 * 3) Different pathologies of pimples
 * Added editing tags, FYI Health policy (talk) 05:05, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Foundations 2, 2019 Peer Review
Group 8a's additions to the article addressed its 3 above goals in a manner that was clearly structured; showed a balanced point of view; referenced reputable evidence sources; and incorporated neutral language. In sum, the group has achieved its goals.

Additionally, using the www.plagiarisma.net website, I found no instances of plagiarism in the newly added content.

Xmrlmem (talk) 01:46, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Group 8a's edits reflect a neutral point of view and succinctly paraphrase important points about the topic. They are careful to not make opinionated claims and simply state the facts as presented in the trustworthy sources of evidence.

Mquindoy (talk) 05:47, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

The edits are formatted in a consistent way with Wikipedia’s manual of style. Docwoods12 (talk) 13:50, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Sebaceous filaments are not blackheads
The image "Blackheads.JPG" on the page doesn't showcase any blackheads, but rather sebaceous filaments which are a ubiquitous, benign accumulation of oil, typically on the nose. I couldn't find any pictures in the wikimedia commons of an actual blackhead, so in lieu of completely deleting the picture and caption, I've re-written it to show what they actually are.

Since sebaceous filaments are natural and constantly re-occurring, attempting to "pop" them can lead to many adverse effects from damaging a completely harmless natural part of the skin. As such I think it's pertinent that this be corrected so that uninformed folk reading the article aren't mislead into unnecessarily damaging their skin. Smortypi (talk) 15:35, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 May 2020
In the “Causes” section, the article claims “oil free” etc labels on products mean they are more likely to irritate the skin. The source linked states actually the opposite, that individuals should look for products with those labels to fight acne. 76.227.14.217 (talk) 16:11, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Yellow check.svg Partly done: The article has a double negative in that sentence, which means what it's saying is backed up by the source, but it is confusing to read - especially at a glance. I'm going to reword it now to improve the clarity. Naypta ☺ &#124; ✉ talk page &#124; 16:20, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Pimples
English 41.114.198.242 (talk) 21:05, 22 March 2022 (UTC)