Talk:PinkPantheress

Added birthdate.
I've added her birthdate to this article because on her Genius profile, it says she was born on 18 April 2001.

PROOF: Victoria Walker (born April 18th, 2001), popularly known as PinkPantheress, is an English singer, songwriter, and record producer. Her identity is mostly mysterious and anonymous, much like her music which stands as a blend of House, Disco, Neo-Soul, Lo-Fi, UK Garage, and Pop. Her name derives from the iconic American fictional animated character The Pink Panther. She signed to Parlophone in 2021. Angelicmonterohannaho123 (talk) 14:12, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Reported name
Numerous sources cite her name and date of birth as Gemma Victoria Walker  and 18/04/2001, but there are users who seem keen for this not to be published. Suggesting page protection to prevent continued edit war back-and-forth. CPMartin (talk) 12:06, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Update: Some news sources that previously listed her name have been quietly removing it, presumably on request from either her or her PR team to try to maintain the air of mystery. There are archive versions of many of the original articles that include her full name  (some were not archived before they removed it, and some still retain it ). This suggests that there is a strong (albeit ultimately futile) attempt to keep her name a secret. As such, perhaps it's indeed best that this article doesn't directly list her name just yet. I would suggest that this issue should be revisited at some point. CPMartin (talk) 13:56, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

As a further update, it seems there is another, perhaps more plausible contender for the name that has been reported: Victoria Beverley Walker. This name has had a similar fate on news websites, including the BBC, being mysteriously disappeared from the original version of the article. This name is listed in other sources too. Interestingly, the German version of Wikipedia (at the time of writing) also lists this name, but it doesn't give a source for it. It seems that waiting for clarity is probably a good idea. CPMartin (talk) 16:28, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

As predicted, it didn't take long for this to start coming out elsewhere, albeit only in the very unreliable source The Daily Mail. They also appear to spell her middle name wrongly (a missing 'e', according to a birth record in the right area at the right time) and provide the abbreviated form of her first name. In general, the Mail writes a pile of trash, but the overall gist of this article seems broadly plausible. However, her name has still not been published in the media more widely, so I concur with previous editors that despite her name now being essentially an open secret, holding off putting it in the article is still the right thing to do. CPMartin (talk) 11:55, 12 January 2022 (UTC)


 * I know it's quite lengthy but I advise you at least skim through Talk:Mxmtoon. I used to always take the same approach as you in the name of providing basic biographical information in an encyclopaedic article, uncensored by the subject as per WP:OWN. But I realized that us editors fighting against PR teams is a pointless battle. The sources you listed clearly disclosed the artist's name without permission and are also rather primary; thus are invalid as per WP:BLPNAME and WP:BLPPRIVACY. The more reliable secondary sources vanished the name for a reason and the use of archives might be disputed in this case. — cybertrip👽 ( 💬 • 📝)  13:07, 12 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for that – I just took a look over it. As you suggest, arguing with a PR team (or indeed someone claiming to be/know the subject of an article) does look like an uphill battle (although semiprotection helps). She also appears to want to keep her name a pseudo-secret, for whatever reason, and I agree that the listed sources are not yet of high enough quality to include. If she turns out to be more than a flash in the pan, then I suspect it will be quite hard for her to keep a lid on the name thing, though. But as I said, I agree that this article should hold off directly naming her for now. CPMartin (talk) 18:15, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 January 2022
Change "Gemma Victoria Walker" to "Gemma Bridey Smith". Pink Pantheress' name is Gemma Bridey Smith. MaiaReid (talk) 13:21, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:23, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 February 2023
Add "Boy's a liar Pt. 2" to the music video list Https.nicholas (talk) 19:46, 5 February 2023 (UTC)


 * hi @Https.nicholas – thank you for writing here to suggested this edit! I've gone ahead and added "Boy's a liar Pt. 2" to the Music Videos section in this edit ^ _ ^ Stussll (talk) 23:19, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Real name (revisited)
I was adding the writing credits for Skrillex's Don't Get Too Close, where PinkPantheres features on the track "Way Back". That song's writing credits on Tidal include Victoria Walker, which would indicate to me that her real name isn't as much of a secret anymore.

I don't want to add the name if it goes against consensus, but this felt like a good reason to bring the subject back up and see how we feel about re-adding the name in the article. Sock  ( tock talk)  19:44, 20 February 2023 (UTC)


 * I've added it, IMO she's gotten big enough (see Boy's a liar pt. 2) that it's fine. Llacb47 (talk) 06:41, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

'Professionally' spelt wrong
'Professionally' spelt wrong in first line of article 1.64.33.179 (talk) 00:07, 25 February 2023 (UTC)


 * ✅ Poirot09 (talk) 11:09, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 March 2023
The website linked is malicious it has a popup that says you won an amazon giftcard at: https://www.pantheress.pink/ Myshiro (talk) 07:45, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting comment.svg Note: It looks like an official crappy website. M.Bitton (talk) 18:52, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
 * It does not look like that to me, it's clearly malicious. I'm looking into it. Actualcpscm (talk) 16:50, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ Removed the malicious links. Please ping me if someone reverts that. I checked the history, and no comments were made when it was added. Actualcpscm (talk) 16:56, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

'Kpop band' Specific Band Name
She lists the band NCT 127 as the kpop influence, the band has r&b, pop and hip hop influence. It's quite disrespectful to not list the band by their name. 2407:D000:D:5BE2:B179:998E:9729:56B9 (talk) 07:27, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

Real Name
I just reverted an edit that added an alleged real name to the article. I saw that there was discussion regarding this issue a year ago, with the result that there was insufficient reporting from reliable sources. As per WP:BLP, including a real name requires multiple reliable sources. The source that was given here was not unambiguously clear on this matter and arguably a primary source; this does not meet the threshold for inclusion of the name. Please ping me with any changes to this. Actualcpscm (talk) 14:13, 28 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Just an update that there are now multiple reliable sources using her real name, Vicky Beverly Walker: People and Glossy . Arvinahmadi (talk) 22:54, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

Birth date?
The article lists her birth date as 18 April 2001 but uses this tweet from her on 19 April 2023 as a source. Are there any reliable sources on this? If not, it should be removed from the article. मल्ल (talk) 16:31, 15 March 2024 (UTC) मल्ल (talk) 16:31, 15 March 2024 (UTC)


 * The issue's been resolved, thanks ActivelyDisinterested! See: Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_437. मल्ल (talk) 22:14, 22 May 2024 (UTC)