Talk:Pink Fairies

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"The author of this page is the web mistress of Steve Took's Domain and hold the joint copyright on all content on www.Steve-Took.co.uk hosted on www.stevetook.MercuryMoon.co.uk"

I hope this does not mean that copyright is being claimed on this article in any way. If so, it needs to be rewritten. Notinasnaid 12:02, 3 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Hmmm, I thought the Pinks were anarchists, seems a bit odd to be concerned about copyright if one doesn't believe in the ownership of property, intellectual property is especially anti-anarchist. I release all my contributions to the public domain, like a good anarchist should. Alun 17:54, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
 * In my experience it's always the anarchists who want to control everything :) Wwwhatsup 19:04, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * In my experience that applies only to communists and capitalists. Alun 19:13, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Rewrite and Intro + Article
I have just heavily copyedited this article for tone, neutral point of view, and markup. Best wishes, MarkBuckles 06:38, 2 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm having trouble understanding what this article is saying Syd Barrett's relation is to this band, Steve Peregrin Took and/or Marc Bolan. I tried to clear this up.  I actually wanted to know too.  Syd Barrett's Wiki doesn't mention took or the Fairies and Took's wiki is as vague as this one.


 * There's quite a lot of info here. The article could do with an overhaul, on the cover sleeve of What a Bunch of Sweeties it says that Twink left the band after Never Neverland, and so there were just three members. The article isn't particularly explicit about the Mark 1 version of the band. I've been thinking for a while about rewriting it and including more info and a better structure. Just a question of finding the time. I'm also not quite sure how to cite information from the cover of an album. I don't think Syd Barrett had any association with the Pinks at all, but I might be wrong. Alun 05:14, 24 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Syd Barrett was, after leaving/being dismissed from Pink Floyd, in a band named Stars, of which Twink was also a member. This was a very short-lived band that, as far as I know, never recorded anything, although they did play live on a few occasions. Barrett's deteriorating mental health ensured the project could not last. I haven't put this information into the main article as I'm not sure it's directly relevant to the history of the Pinks themselves. Scholiwiki 23:44, 8 January 2007 (UTC)


 * This definitely needs rewrite; The band led by Canadian Paul Rudolph on rock guitar; Duncan (Sandy) Sanderson on bass; and two drummers, Twink, and Russell Hunter, toured N. America before launching their first "trippy" album, is outright balderdash. There's also plenty of POV remaining. Wwwhatsup 19:03, 8 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Given Pinkwind gets a mention under Hawkwind, I suggest it gets a mention here Peter cohen 23:06, 4 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Well OK, I've rewritten it then. At least there's now structure and facts. Perhaps it's a little dry, but there's something contributors can add to. Drwhawkfan 18:52, 5 September 2007 (UTC)


 * First class job. Well done! Wwwhatsup 22:18, 5 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I believe the laundry list of Festivals should be put down under the 1970 bit, and just briefly summarized in the intro. The intro should mention the two famous configurations and the influence on punk, for which refs are needed. The article could be sectioned. Wwwhatsup (talk) 10:02, 3 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Still could use a bit more structure, perhaps by splitting into subsections. I myself know nothing at all about this band and its putative members, so it might be better if a discriminating fan would take this on. Acwilson9 (talk) 03:56, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Martin Stone & Stiff
The article says Martin joined in the Stiff era, but I think I remember him in there earlier, I could very well be wrong. What I do recall is he was playing in the 101ers in June of 76 - I happened to go and see him with them at a pub on Fulham Broadway which I think was their last show. Obviously he was one connection to Jake Riviera who was just starting Stiff, and was also tapping Lazza as a producer. In the early days Stiff didn't have distribution (except for Bizarre) and was run on a shoestring. My perception was that Nick Lowe's "So It Goes" and The Damned's "New Rose" were both slow to take off so, in fact, it was only by cashing in on the pent up demand for the more established PF, re-inforced by the Barker pic-sleeve, that they were able to solve cash flow problems that would've sunk them right there - and also pay Larry to do more.. All pure OR and POV but possibly fact. Books have been written about Stiff, there must be something in them. Wwwhatsup (talk) 10:02, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Founding Members
If I remember correctly, the liner notes for one of the early Pink Fairies compilation albums (Flashback I believe) said that the founding members were Mick Farren, Steve Peregrine Took, and Twink, with Farren leaving almost immediately. (I lost the album in Katrina, so I am doing this from memory). Farren also wrote the liner notes for the comeback album Kill 'em and Eat 'em. This article makes it sound as though Farren has only a peripheral role in the band, and that was not my impression at all. Shocking Blue (talk) 12:24, 19 February 2011 (UTC)


 * As mentioned in the first para of the history section the PF were preceded by the Pink Fairies Drinking and Motorcycle Club or whatever, so named by Jamie Mandelkau, which was more a gang than a band, with one shambolic show to their name. The only thing in common between the two acts is the name and Twink. Twink was very much taken with fairy imagery, and indeed, had much earlier been involved with a band called The Fairies so, since Mandelkau was a best pal of Rudolph it was natural to continue with the name, however it must be emphasized that there was a discontinuity between the two acts, and the whole point was to make a new band transcendent of Farren . Nevertheless Farren was instrumental in that it was he was he who persuaded Seymour Stein to finance the Think Pink album which was in essence the basis of the band's formation. As far as Farren goes he was preoccupied during the early years of the band with his roles as editor of International Times, running the UK end of the White Panther Party, being taken to court for obscenity, and doing some writing. He also had a falling out with Twink. It was only when his pal Larry Wallis became the musical leader that Farren again became close. He DID have an important peripheral role, first as the catalyst that brought together the core as The Deviants, and later as a leader of the British Underground, including using his media influence to position them as a 'people's band'. I do think that that para could well be rewritten to commence with the PFD&MC and then move on to through Think Pink, the USA trip, and Mona to the eventual formation of PF mark 1. If you want to know more about the band I recommend getting the book. Wwwhatsup (talk) 06:14, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Shagrat Reference
As I noted earlier in the Talk section for the Shagrat article, the liner notes for an early retrospective album for the Pink Fairies that I own say that Mick Farren is the one who left immediately, not Twink. The 2001 CD Pink Jackets Required is credited to Shagrat and is the joint work of Took and Twink according to Allmusic: http://www.allmusic.com/album/pink-jackets-required-mw0000368754. Shocking Blue (talk) 09:12, 15 March 2014 (UTC)


 * As I also said on the Shagrat talk page, Twink is notorious for claiming credit for stuff he did not do and the claims he made re. Pink Jackets Required are one of the most infamous examples of this.  Take no notice of his fibs. 84.111.73.31 (talk) 13:46, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

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