Talk:Pinocchio

Agree that the film AI should be mentioned in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.14.65.148 (talk) 22:48, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Merge with Pinocchio (Shrek)
It was previously suggested that Pinocchio (Shrek) be merged into the article about The Adventures of Pinocchio which didn't make a lot of sense since that was primarily about the book, not the character. However, it would make sense to include information in this article (about the character) about all of the notable appearances of Pinocchio, including the canonical version in the book, the popular version in the Disney cartoon... and the Shrek version. This is being done with other fictional characters (e.g. Peter Pan). - JasonAQuest (talk) 15:58, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I think you shouldn't merge the articles because the Shrek version is totally different from the original version. -ComputerGuy890100 (talk) 02:57, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * So, he's not a walking, talking, wooden puppet boy? - JasonAQuest (talk) 03:44, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - Merge away, the shrek article is not notable on its own. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 21:19, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Support - Agreed, either merge or delete pinocchio(shrek) its completely non notable. nigell k (talk) 05:33, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Year set?
Does anyone know in which year the tale is set?--TimothyJacobson (talk) 08:49, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
 * You could always grep the Wikisource for four-digit numbers; I don't think you'll find any. --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 01:59, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

What kind of sea creature is it?
The article talks about the giant sea creature and calls it a shark, a whale and a dogfish. Which is it? I don't read Italian so can't go back to the source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ee79 (talk • contribs) 03:16, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

In the italian version it is called a "pescecane", literally a "dogfish", which according to the italian wikipedia appears to be a shark: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pescecane The italian version also calls it the giant sea creature, monster or similar. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.38.192.210 (talk) 15:33, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Fictional character biography
I saw this removal of duplicated information along with this revert in my watchlist. Do we need to have a condensed book in both this article and the article The Adventures of Pinocchio? --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 12:37, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't think we do. His biography is basically the same as the plot of the book and there's no need for a copy of it on two separate articles. I think the biography should be removed from this article and then since this article will be quite short, Pinocchio in popular culture should be merged into this article. - kollision (talk) 13:26, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd prefer to replace the section with a brief overview of the most recognizable traits of the character (e.g. nose growing while lying or otherwise under stress, oscillation between honor student and slacker), but what would be in and what would be out? --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 13:41, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Has anyone noticed that this page has been completely vandalised? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.134.125.178 (talk) 11:21, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Not until now, but you can help revert it if you want. --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 12:39, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Disney version
The reference to Shel Silverstein's book in the "Disney Version" section seems to make no sense at all. Is it some sort of attempt at SEO or inflating the importance of the author perhaps? I'm removing it. 190.194.206.15 (talk) 14:15, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Name of Pinocchio
This article should detail what the word "Pinocchio" means in Italian. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 03:31, 4 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Definitely! In the past, this article *did* have various explanations... I remember it explained that "Pinocchio" means pine eye, supposedly referring to the "eyes" common in the pine wood that he was made of, and another time the article suggested that "Pinocchio" is simply the word for pine-seed. The article Pine nut still suggests, in a footnote, that "Pinocchio" is a local name for the pine seed. I wonder what of all of this is true. This definitely needs discussing in this article. 87.69.227.74 (talk) 06:43, 10 August 2014 (UTC)


 * I strongly agree with this too-long-ignored request. I came to this article only to find out what the name means and am surprised to find absolutely no information at all. The corresponding Italian WP article includes an excellent, thorough, and well-documented discussion of the meaning of the name "Pinocchio". It's here: Pinocchio. This English-language article is currently locked, so I cannot edit it, but someone who can edit it really ought to incorporate that section, translated effectively verbatim (Google Translate does a remarkably good job), into this article.—104.244.192.50 (talk) 12:40, 16 August 2018 (UTC)


 * In short, Pinocchio simply means pine nut. Also Geppetto / Geppo just are regional nicknames for "Giuseppe" (in other parts if Italy, Giuseppe may be shortened in different ways, such as Beppe, Peppe, Peppo, etc.)
 * I realize that a non-Italian may analyze "Pinocchio" as "pino"+"occhio", but such guesswork is dangerous: imagine a non-English speaker expecting "Buckingham" to mean "jolting posterior"... 2.34.77.226 (talk) 17:02, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Pronunciation
Why is the IPA for the US pronunciation exactly the same as the IPA for the UK pronunciation? I can't say for the UK pronunciation, but the given US pronunciation is incorrect. Tad Lincoln (talk) 23:10, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

First bullet under Disney version ends in gibberish
I don't get what this was trying to say. Either it was written by someone struggling with English, or it has been edited and re-edited into nonsense:

"Disney Television Animation upcoming for animation television series to released the report Pinocchio, premiered, appeared on Disney Junior launched, It features voice actors Dickie Jones as Pinocchio and Cliff Edwards as Jiminy Cricket and Christian Rub as Geppetto." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.176.151.28 (talk) 14:05, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Since when is Gilgamesh a western Hero?
Gilgamesh has been mentioned in the article as a western Hero. I failed to understand how Gilgamesh is a western Hero. He is clearly from the Middle East and not Europe. This cultural appropriation should stop. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ksinkar (talk • contribs) 07:53, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

A.I.
In my opinion, A.I. Artificial Intelligence by Steven Spielberg is a modern adaptation of this story. Mazarin07 (talk) 17:31, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

Nothing about origin?
https://chronologia.org/en/seven/2NA4-EN.pdf

Last 2 pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.89.23.25 (talk) 11:14, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

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A very poor description of the real Pinocchio, only the Americanized version, even when describing the original story,
the Story of a Puppet first appeared in serial form, starting in 1881, in Giornale per i bambini, the Children’s Newspaper. Its opening paragraph was meant to undermine the traditional idea of a fairy tale—and also to send a political message. Totally lost in the adaptations. Wiki used to have the correct version but it appears to have been 'modified' by people who missed the whole point. Learn more about https://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/the-real-pinocchio-180980027/ has a good recent article, its studied academically. 206.53.87.220 (talk) 14:54, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Pinocchio: A True Story as its own page
So I noticed that the 2022 film, Pinocchio: A True Story, doesn't have its own page and I have to say it should be worthy to get one. Not only is it associated with Del Toro's Pinocchio and Disney's Live Action Pinocchio as "The 2022 Pinocchio Trilogy" but its also become a notorious film online and became a huge meme that has been mentioned in Pauly Shore's page but should also be included in its own page rather than a tiny section plus with stars like Jon Heder and Tom Kenny, I feel that with the popular talk on this infamous animated flick has enough merit to get its own page like other Pinocchio movies. Also there's a good chance it'll be nominated by the Golden Raspberry Awards

- User:Dragonsblood23 (talk) 21:58, 24 December 2022 (CT)

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