Talk:Pisces, Aquarius, Capricorn & Jones Ltd.

Take Over
Is it possible if I, Horrorfreak, can take over writing the monkees discography? Look at my work on Headquarters and Pisces, Aquarius, Capricorn, & Jones, Ltd..

I can help
If you continue to set up the templates and provide information on the background of the albums, I can continue proofing, adding and referencing information from Andrew Sandoval's new definitive book on The Monkees. The book is more up to date than the CD liner notes. Keep it up.

All Music Guide link
Since a link to the AMG review is already provided in the template box, I'm removing the review from the main text. Not sure if we have permission to reprint it anyway...

Error in info
It is not the first pop/rock album to feature a Moog Synthesizer. Paul Beavier, who plays the Moog in one song had already played on the album The Zodiac - Cosmic Sounds. Although obscure, this one is in fact an experimental rock album

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Main personnel
An editor continues to add individuals to the Pisces, Aquarius, Capricorn & Jones Ltd. section such as here. The original album cover does not contain this content and no reference has been given supporting these additional people other than "it's the truth." Does anyone have a reference for this that meets WP:Verifiability? Just post the reference information here and I'll be happy to format it. But, I am removing the content until it is given. Thanks, 72Dino (talk) 21:13, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Mike vs. Michael
Most of the Monkees discography have Mike and Michael. Nesmith goes by Michael but his Monkees' persona is Mike. Is there a preference or consistency needed or is both spellings ok? I changed Pisces to all 'Michael' but did not do all albums until a consensus.Docob5 (talk) 22:14, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Needs certifications and track times and songwriting credits for Deluxe Edition
Fantailfan (talk) 15:35, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Done. Fantailfan (talk) 13:43, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Goin' Down [Alternate Mix]
Are there any differences between this mix and the one released as a B-Side to Daydream Believer, other than what I have mentioned below?


 * Goin' Down [Single Mix] - (4:23) - stereo, fade-out (from 4:09 to 4:21), less prominent wailing trumpets (?), more prominent jazzy riff (?), more prominent hiss (?).


 * Goin' Down [Alt. Mix] - (4:46) - extended (23 seconds), mono, fade-out (from 4:34 to 4:39, does not fade out properly), dialogue at end, more prominent wailing trumpets (?), less prominent jazzy riff (?), less prominent hiss (?), a couple of seconds faster (I played them both together at the same time, and this one became a couple of seconds ahead).

-- C.Syde  ( talk  &#124;  contribs ) 05:11, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

The Door into Summer [Alternate Mix]
The album version of the song features two different drummers. But as far as I can hear on the alternate mix of the song, there is only one drummer. The alternate mix is in mono, which makes it harder to determine how many drummers there are, but the drumming is a lot more restrained in this mix. Could it be that there is only one drummer in the alternate mono mix of the song? -- C.Syde  ( talk  &#124;  contribs ) 06:19, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Actually I've listened to it a second time, and it seems that there may be two drummers, as the drumming becomes more prominent after the first verse. But the drumming is more restrained in this version, and because it's in mono, it's a lot harder to hear that there are two different drum tracks. -- C.Syde  ( talk  &#124;  contribs ) 08:52, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Micky Dolenz on Guitar?
It says that Micky Dolenz plays guitar on the album's personnel, however none of the individual song's personnel's credit Micky Dolenz as a guitarist. Can someone please verify that Micky plays guitar on this album? And if so what track. -- C.Syde  ( talk  &#124;  contribs ) 01:31, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

There Is No Moog Synthesizer on Their Satanic Majesties Request
In the article it says, "Along with the Doors' September 1967 album Strange Days, Their Satanic Majesties Request by the Rolling Stones in December, and the Byrds' January 1968 album The Notorious Byrd Brothers, Pisces was one of the first commercial recordings to reach a wide audience featuring the Moog." There is no Moog synthesizer on Their Satanic Majesties Request. That instrument on the album is a Mellotron, not a Moog Synthesizer. 2003:C0:274C:64A4:6006:4952:7238:5818 (talk) 03:50, 19 June 2024 (UTC)


 * This is the problem with people adding gobs of unsourced information to Wikipedia, as many try to do with these Monkees pages. The Keymaster (talk) 19:49, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Unconfirmed personnel and duties
I have to disagree that integrating these into the confirmed credits with just a question mark denoting them is a good idea. It looks sloppy to me, like an editor was just guessing when they listed them, and is also too easy to overlook at a casual glance. Separating them out makes it much clearer and easier to see what credits—or assumed credits—still need sourcing in the future. I worked a long time on getting the personnel sections for the first nine albums accurate as per Andrew Sandoval's liner notes (and jettisoned a lot of unnecessary and unsourced clutter and WP:OR in the process) and don't want to see these turn into a mess again.—The Keymaster (talk) 19:58, 13 July 2024 (UTC)