Talk:Pistacia terebinthus

problem with wording in History section
"It prefers relatively moist areas, up to 600 m in height."

The above does not make sense. Clearly the tree does not grow to a height of 600 meters. Did the editor mean that the tree will grow in altitudes up to 600 meters above sea level, or are there more zeros than needed?

By the way, I am a total newbie to this and have not yet figured out how to post to Wikipedia. LetUsThink (talk) 00:21, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Merger proposal
I propose to merge Pistacia palaestina into Pistacia terebinthus, because both morphological and molecular evidence indicates they are the same species and P. palaestina should be treated as a synonym. --Neux-Neux (talk) 14:17, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

The page called so was deleted from English Wikipedia but both pages exists on French Wikipedia and others. The most known reference that show the trees are two and not the same clearly about a oak tree called in Hebrew elah and about an a terebinth tree called in Hebrew eleun in the prophet Isaiah chapter 6 with verse 13: וְעֹוד בָּהּ עֲשִׂרִיָּה וְשָׁבָה וְהָיְתָה לְבָעֵר כָּאֵלָה וְכָאַלֹּון אֲשֶׁר בְּשַׁלֶּכֶת מַצֶּבֶת בָּם זֶרַע קֹדֶשׁ מַצַּבְתָּֽהּ׃ פ uē·auōd bāh asōriāh uē·șābāh uē·hāitāh lî·bāaēr cā·eëlāh uē·cā·elēuɳ eășęr bē·șēlēcēt mē·țēbāt bām—zara qōdēș mē·țēbâtāh (fe) (Isaia 6:13 în Codex Aleppo) And still inside ten and return and being to kindle like elah (terebinth/oak ?) and like elun (oak/terebinth) that in wooden-tree of tree-body intro-seed saint yelds. FlorinCB (talk) 07:01, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Requested move 9 August 2020

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Pistacia terebinthus → Terebinth – Per WP:COMMONNAME. The disambiguation page Terebinth has only two entries: This and Terebinth of Nero. The Terebinth of Nero was a mausoleum associated with a terebinth tree (Pistacia terebinthus), and therefore is not a distinct use, but a specific example of a terebinth. The disambiguation page appears to have existed because formerly terebinths were considered to be of two species, the other Pistacia palaestina; when scientific consensus (and therefore the articles) changed, the unnecessary disambiguation page remained. — the Man in Question (in question)  23:50, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 01:05, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Support. Srnec (talk) 23:00, 12 August 2020 (UTC)


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Requested move 2 March 2022

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Terebinth → Pistacia terebinthus – Terebinth does not only refer to Pistacia terebinthus.
 * 1) In the sense of ancient usage of the term "terebinth", ancient Greeks refer to both P. terebinthus and P. atlantica as terebinth. The anonymous user below thinks the ancient usage of the term is not important, but nearly half of the content of this page is about terebinth in Ancient texts.
 * 2) In the sense of the terebinth tree that produces the terebinth resin, P. atlantica is the main source of the terebinth resin in the Mediterranean region, instead of P. terebinthus.  Again, half of the section "Uses" is about the terebinth resin.
 * 3) In the sense of modern usage of the term "terebinth", the definition of "terebinth" by the American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language is "any of several usually small trees of the genus Pistacia of the Middle East and the Mediterranean region", and P. atlantica is called Atlantic terebinth or simply terebinth in various sources.
 * 4) The content of this page itself contains descriptions of other species. For example, it mentions the terebinth resin was used at the foot of the Zagros Mountains, but P. terebinthus does not grow in Iran;  thus, it must refer to some other species such as P. atlantica. The imprecision of the title "terebinth" is self-evident.

It is best to move this page to Pistacia terebinthus, and turn terebinth into either a disambiguation page including Pistacia terebinthus and Pistacia atlantica in the list, or a separate page introducing the terebinth trees in ancient Greek and Roman texts and the current uses of the terebinth resin. Neux-Neux (talk) 16:39, 2 March 2022 (UTC) The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * Oppose, from what I can see, in modern parlance P. atlantica is NOT called "terebinthe", and furthermore that P. terebinthus is the only species that currently has that common name, since the Palestine Terebinthe was reclassified as a subspecies. By "true terebinthe" you seem to mean "what the Ancient Greeks called terebinthe"; but, English Wikipedia doesn't name articles based on what they were called in Ancient Greece, and those two sources you've provided are archaeology sources whose primary focus apppears to be on what the Ancient Greeks' source of turpentine was, not which plant is the "true terebinthe." 2600:1702:4960:1DE0:214B:15FF:24A6:C4BD (talk) 19:30, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Your statement is NOT true. I have added many sources calling P. atlantica terebinth. The article by Mills and White clearly says "P. atlantica Desf. is the true turpentine tree or terebinth", not "was"; it is not only about history, but also about the true source of terebinth resin which is still used by local people.--Neux-Neux (talk) 21:11, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Support. Scientific name is not ambiguous. YorkshireExpat (talk) 17:52, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Support Move back to longstanding title that was changed in a RM with little participation. The scientific name is PRECISE and CONSISTENT with 99% of plant articles. Create a separate article for terebinth focusing on history and uses. Plantdrew (talk) 16:10, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

Duplication/contradiction
The characteristics of flowers and fruit appear twice and are inconsistent:

"The flowers are reddish-purple, appearing with the new leaves in early spring. The fruit consists of small, globular drupes 5–7 mm (0.20–0.28 in) long, red to black when ripe. All parts of the plant have a strong resinous smell." versus "The flowers range from purple to green, the fruit is the size of a pea and turns from red to brown, depending on the degree of maturation."

This ought to be tidied up.

I am just a user looking for information. Unfortunately, I am neither a biologist and have no knowledge of mediterrenean botany, so I am of no help here. Hskoppek (talk) 10:49, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

Genus
Hello Why is that necessary? The genus is in the taxobox. Invasive Spices (talk) 21:36, 3 April 2023 (UTC)