Talk:Pittsburgh International Airport/Archive 1

Removed ref to airplane crash. Don't see how it is relevant. Or, if it is (maybe to figure out if one wants to fly there) it seems to me all airplane crashes should be added to the airports near their occurance.

The intro reads like an advertisement. Could probably use some POV help. Rdore 19:36, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

I agree, also could someone familiar with PIT include the annual amount of passengers that use       this airport?

jetBlue has announced service starting in June, but they have already been placed in Concourse C on the KPIT page? Is there any confirmation of this? D seems to be a more likely choice unless they are taking Indpendence Air's old gate.

Logos not fair use?
Ok maybe I should head over to the Final Four site, the city sports sections, corporate description sites here at wiki to delete all those logos??!

Someone please give me some guidance on this, I'll add them back by late May.Hholt01 19:23, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

I personally have no knowledge about "fair use" of these logos, but I personally am for them. Perhaps when they come back, maybe even using the express airlines in smaller format?

Did US Airways stop nonstop West palm Beach Service?
 * Yes they did. Who knows why. They do whatever they want these days. Bcamp09 (talk) 22:26, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Innovations bad news?
Seems like someone was more concerned about "equal time" in the innovations section then the simple facts.

First I have used the Airport Wi-Fi maybe hundreds of time and NEVER been hacked and never heard of anyone being hacked, Pittsburgh has a "state of the art" Wi-Fi network according to their webpage and the bevy brain talent that Carnegie-Mellon, Pittsburgh SuperComputing Center, U.S. Computer Emergency Response Team HQ, Ariba, Seagate, Google, Apple and Rand Corp. in the city of Pittsburgh provide would seem to indicate that having the Wi-Fi network be among the most secure in the world only takes a few professors or engineers a half a tank of gas and a couple of WDVE songs to maintain.

Also I find it curious that a blanket statement about the increased risks with any Wi-Fi network would find itself in a statement not about the technical aspects of Wi-Fi vis-a-vi wired but in a statement highlighting the fact that one airport was first to build a free system open to all of a certain technology. Shouldn't the blanket statements about non-specific risk factors of Wi-Fi be saved for the page discussing Wi-Fi and not the Pittsburgh Airport, unless of course someone had a citation on hacking taking place at PIT which as a Post-Gazette, Pgh Business Times and Pittsburghlive junkie I'd be very impressed to read about finally (cause I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have ever skipped over that headline).Hholt01 06:06, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

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Also the statement about the food not being street priced, I do think a few items could use a real-world check on food however overall I don't see much difference between food prices at the airport, downtown Pittsburgh, Sewickley, Oakland, Monroeville, Northshore, Southside, Strip District and the like. Again I think you would need a citation to rebut a few hundred web resources that claim that the Airport is indeed street pricing. I am sure that if you compared PIT to the Eastend, Monessen or Aliquippa you would find it a bit pricey but I wouldn't think you would fly all the way to Pittsburgh to eat in Monessen, and please don't be there after sunset ok.Hholt01 06:06, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Picture
The picture inside of the infobox needs to be replaced because of the pixel distortion. -- Weatherman1126  (  talk  ) 17:46, 29 July 2006 (UTC) I can get some pictures, as I go there a lot, just ask and I'll get them
 * Can any of the pictures available through PIT's website be used to replace the one taken down?Mezzanoitaliano 02:01, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Not recommended. A picture can easily be taken at the airport; a free image. One taken from a website is not a free image. Thanks. -- Weatherman1126  (  talk  ) 05:08, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I actually meant the ones under media relations, but if this is what you were referring to, I understand. Problem with pictures at the airport is that there's no good spot to get a full overview of the airport in its entirety, unless it was settled on just the Core of the Airside, or the front of the Landside Terminal.Mezzanoitaliano 05:51, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Good point. I had my camera there the other day, but I couldn't find a good spot to take any pictures. Where was the picture that used to be on this page taken? I've never seen a fountain there. Thanks. -- Weatherman1126  (  talk  ) 17:47, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
 * The fountain is in the center of the departure drop-off area across the road from the landside terminal.Mezzanoitaliano 18:14, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Looking through some pics I have, I see I have one from the ticketing hall in Pittsburgh. Does anyone have an opinion on this one?  If not liked, I was just there twice this weekend and might be able to get another shot next time.  The airside terminal would be more difficult since it's beyond security.
 * I could actually take any picture anyone wanted. I work there and have access to airside. Just let me know what we need and I can get it for you.luketenley

Removing Neutrality Despute
I don't and haven't seen anything dicussed here concerning the neutrality, so I will remove it unless someone choses to share their view here, thank you. Hholt01 09:29, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I think we still need to work on this - some of the text reads partially. "Pittsburgh International Airport (PIT) is a world-class facility" - what does that mean, really? It's one of my favorite airports, but that reads as a peacock term. (This isn't the only sentence that needs a little help) The innovations section could use some work too. --Matt 19:52, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Through hub direct service not included
Someone should go through the other airports (Asian airports with service from Northwest Airlines offhand) and delete those as well. I tried one time and was told those were acceptable. mezzanoitaliano 9 November 2006

E terminal
E terminal is not closed, I added about 30% to this article since inception I am hholt01 username, E terminal is not closed, since I walked in it 5 times in the last 30 days, repeat E terminal is not closed, if you wish to accuse users of vandalism please fly to Pittsburgh and walk into the E terminal since as I repeat, the E terminal is not closed, that is the E terminal, not closed. Thank you. 65.33.68.113 04:42, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

that's funny because i just flew out of Pittsburgh and before you get on the subway to go to the airside terminal I saw a sign that said E Terminal and then it said DO NOT ENTER, so maybe you broke some rules and you weren't supposed to be there —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cookiecake4392 (talk • contribs).

you probably thought you were in the E terminal but you were really in the A,B,C,D terminals —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.95.166.184 (talk • contribs).


 * There is no way to enter the gate portion of the E gates. There is a alternative security checkpoint in the lounge area of the terminal but everything else is blocked off. One of the 3 wings of the E gates terminal has bee removed to make room for a North Baggage Matrix area for US Airways. luketenley 22:24, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

GA Fail

 * This article automatically fails the first criterion, "well written". It is about 50% lists, all needs to be converted to prose.
 * The lead doesn't represent a good summary of the article and is way too short, see WP:LEAD.
 * Two outstanding citation needed tags.

I did not perform a full review of the article because these shortcomings mean it is automatically not qualified (yet) for GA. Thanks for your contributions and good luck with the article. IvoShandor 06:00, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Pittsburgh Assessment
Rated Class=B due to GA Candidate failure; rated Importance=High due to its affect on the economics of the area. – Paschmitts 11:41, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Sorting catagories
I am looking and Denver International and they have our equivalent of innovations up top and gates at the bottom, a design I think is very nice. I think we should re priortize these catagories. Interested in other opinions. Hholt01 21:20, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I have reviewed some other pages as well and with the flow we have now, it looks real good. It is a mixture of what you had with some of my ideas. luketenley 04:42, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

History Citations
Someone recently added citations needed to the history section. I disagree. There is a note at the bottom that all of the information can be found at the airport on displays set up throughout the concourses. Luketenley has confirmed this when he wrote up the section, and I can confirm it as well, having flown through and used Pittsburgh on all of my travels. There is no way to identify this online, as the information is only at the airport (and there is in fact, a picture of one such display in the section). Thoughts? NW036 02:04, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * All the info I wrote is not direct quotes from the display. I did this so there wouldn't be any problems with piracy and whatnot. I talked it over with Matt Laroche and we couldn't come up with a quote or any other solution other then what i wrote at the end of the section. luketenley 21:40, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I think I'm the "Someone" mentioned above. First let me assure you that I have no doubt whatsoever that the history as provided represents good faith (and no small amount of effort either, obviously).  (Even beyond good faith, who really is going to fabricate information about the history of an airport?)  Anyhow, let's be sure that an accurate reply is at hand if someone (and it won't be me) makes a claim that this represents "original research." I can't believe that this is the first time a case such as this has arisen; I would think there is a fully-approved means of dealing with it.  DagnyB 01:55, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
 * IMHO the section is a great addition and having flown through Pittsburgh, accurate, as mentioned above though I was going to reorganize this page to better conform to other airport pages and gain a better hold on info overload (though fantastic info, the original order and cats don't do justice to the overflow that has grown around this article), as such I'm moving the history to its very own Wikipage with the view that visitors to the airport page here are looking more at gate info, innovations, runway layouts then a history lesson (this coming from one very nerdy history buff ;) ), I love the section but airport pages are more about operations then mega details about the 1940s and 1950s, the section is excellent but like the Steelers page and some cats on the Pittsburgh page I feel it deserves a special page unto itself, interested on other views. Hholt01 07:34, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Having looked at other pages, their history is on the same page. I don't want to history page on its own seperate page. People coming to look for info will more then likely not click on a link but rather have it on the same page. Check out some major airport pages and tell me if their history is on a seperate page. luketenley 23:14, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I love the history, not just NINE count them NINE paragraphs of it on the airport page, I posted the reorg weeks ago so everyone has had a chance to make comments for a dozen days including putting the 1945 airport information below and away from the 2007 airport information, am interested in other views on this but 1945 does not trump 2007 in priority or length for a page on an airport (a living breathing organization), and this is coming from someone who can best Rick Sebak in local history info. Thank you and other views are welcomed on this.  Hholt01 04:22, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah it is alot of information but I have seen it before on other airport pages. If you take it out, it will be harder for people to get that information. It took me 3 tries to find the link. That's rediculous. It needs to be on the main page about the airport. Mlaroche and myself thought the info was very good and definately helped out the page. If you have a problem with this, feel free to contact me via AIM or email. luketenley 04:30, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Southwst Uses Gates A1 and A3, but NOT A5
gate A5 is used by US Airways Express, not Southwest —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.77.66.237 (talk • contribs).


 * Hrm. According to PIT's carrier page, yes. But not according to the picture in the article, or the departure information from PIT's website. --Matt 17:59, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Agreed Matt, to the starter: please view the picture, the sign clearly states A5. This information was confirmed by my personal visit to PIT as well as from an employee of Pittsburgh International and a Southwest employee. Also, these three are only WN's official gates. During busier times, they even use US Airways' A7 and park overnight (RON) jets at A1, A3, A5, A7, and sometimes A9 (though this gate is still used by USX during the day). NW036 18:04, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Southwestgate.jpg


 * If you want, I will get another picture tomorrow showing the gate sign and the Southwest logo on the wall behind it. Southwest mainly uses 1 and 3 but often use 5 when they have delays and stuff like that, as well as RONs.

If you check pittsburgh airports website arrivals and Departures they are using A7 and A9 a lot, is A1, A3 and A5 closed or under constructionTajtheman (talk) 22:51, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
 * They're under construction. Bcamp09 (talk) 02:57, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Did US Airways stop Nonstop service to West Palm beach???

Did US Airways stop service to West Palm beach
Does anybody know?
 * Yes It was unannounced and, in my opinion, a rather sneaky move by them on top of everything else they cut.  As of now there are no plans to bring it back later this year, or have another airline pick it up. NW036 15:33, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

I guess they also stopped nonstop service to Miami. But American will still operate that.

US airways will resume the nonstop service to miami on nov 5, but it will only be seasonal. 72.77.65.78 20:28, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Does US Airways fly nonstop to Savannah, GA?? Because I can't find nonstop flights in their flight status.
Does anybody know when they operate this flight, or has anyone ever flown this route.

They have an express flight —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.120.169.138 (talk) 03:26, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

I Hate US Airways!!! Did they really stop nonstop flights to all these cites??
Here is the list I have, let me know if I missed any. I really hate US airways we built this wonderful terminal to their specifications in the early 1990's. And not even ten years later they cut flights. Do you realize that PIT is supposed to be the best Airport in amenities and service in the United states? Well that doesn't really help if there are no connecting passengers to enjoy those amenities, right. So why did they DE-Hub PIT. Pittsburgh international was built to handle 600 flights a day. now we only have 127 from US Airways, our airport is a lot nicer than Philly and Charlotte. How come Pittsburgh was the one that lost everything?

=== You should join the PIT supporters on www.airliners.net. We have a huge following over there arguing the same points you are above. (luketenley)

Miami West Palm Beach Scranton/wilkes Barre Allentown Rochester Buffalo San Diego Seattle Baltimore Altoona-Martinsburg


 * US Airways has also cut service to the following cities from Pittsburgh since the 90s:
 * Akron/Canton-CAK (Mainline/Express)
 * Albuquerque's-ABQ (Mainline)
 * Altonna-AOO (Express)
 * Atlanta-ATL (Mainline/Express)
 * Atlantic City-ACY (Mainline)
 * Austin-AUS (Mainline)
 * Bangor-BGR (Mainline)
 * Beckley-BKW (Express)
 * Binghamton-BGM (Mainline/Express)
 * Birmingham-BHM (Mainline/Express)
 * Bluefield-BLF (Express)
 * Burlington-BTV (Mainline/Express)
 * Cedar Rapids-CID (Express)
 * Charleston-CHS (Express)
 * Charlottesville-CHO (Express)
 * Chattanooga-CHA (Express)
 * Chicago Midway-MDW (Mainline)
 * Cincinnati-CVG (Mainline/Express)
 * Champaign-Urbana-CMI (Express)
 * Cleveland-CLE (Mainline/Express)
 * Columbia-CAE (Express)
 * Cumberland-CBE (Express)
 * Dayton-DAY (Mainline/Express)
 * Dallas/Ft Worth-DFW (Mainline/Express)
 * Des Moines-DSM (Mainline) (1 stop)
 * Detroit-DTW (Mainline/Express)
 * Elmira-ELM (Mainline/Express)
 * Evansville-EVV (Mainline/Express)
 * Flint-FNT (Express)
 * Frankfurt-FRA (Mainline)
 * Fort Wayne-FWA (Mainline/Express)
 * Grand Rapids-GRR (Mainline/Express)
 * Green Bay-GRB (Mainline) (1 stop)
 * Greensboro-GSO (Mainline/Express)
 * GSP (Express)
 * YHM (Express)
 * Houston-IAH (Mainline/Express)
 * HTS (Mainline/Express)
 * HSV (Express)
 * Ithaca-ITH (Mainline/Express)
 * Jacksonville-JAX (Mainline)
 * JHW (Express)
 * Kalamazoo-AZO (Express)
 * Kansas City-MCI (Mainline/Express)
 * Knoxville-TYS (Mainline/Express)
 * Lansing-LAN (Express)
 * Latrobe-LBE (Mainline/Express)
 * Lexington-LEX (Mainline/Express)
 * YXU (Express)
 * London Gatwick-LGW (Mainline)
 * LYH (Express)
 * Manchester-MHT (Mainline/Express)
 * Memphis-MEM (Mainline/Express)
 * Milwaukee-MKE (Mainline/Express)
 * Minneapolis/St Paul-MSP (Mainline/Express)
 * Montreal-YUL (Mainline/Express)
 * SWF (Mainline)
 * New Orleans-MSY (Mainline)
 * PHF (Mainline)
 * Oakland-OAK (Mainline) (1 stop)
 * Omaha-OMA (Mainline) (1 stop) (express) non stop
 * SNA (Mainline)
 * YOW (Mainline/Express)
 * Paris-CDG (Mainline)
 * PWM (Mainline/Express)
 * Portland-PDX (Mainline)
 * Reading-RDG (Express)
 * Reno-RNO (Mainline)
 * Roanoke-ROA (Express)
 * Sacramento-SMF (Mainline)
 * MBS (Express)
 * San Antonio-SAT (Mainline)
 * SJC (Mainline)
 * Savannah-SAV (Mainline/Express)
 * South Bend-SBN (Mainline/Express)
 * SCE (Express)
 * Toledo-TOL (Mainline/Express)
 * TTN (Mainline/Express)
 * TRI (Mainline/Express)
 * TUS (Mainline) (1 stop)
 * HLG (Mainline)
 * IPT (Mainline/Express)
 * ILG (Express) (1 stop)
 * Worchester-ORH (Mainline)
 * Youngstown-YNG (Express)

290 flights a day to 80 destinations? Where do they get the eighty destinations? I can only find 70.
Can anyone else find the other ten?

Here is the list I compiled:

Domestic

Albany

Arlington-Reagan National Atlanta Baltimore Boston Bradford, PA Chantilly, VA- Washington Dulles Charleston, WV

Charlotte Chicago-Midway Chicago-O'Hare Cincinnati Clarksburg, WV Cleveland Columbus Dallas-Fort Worth Denver Detroit Dubois, PA* Erie Fort Lauderdale Fort Myers Franklin-Oil City, PA* Hagerstown* Harrisburg Hartford/Springfield, CT Houston-George Bush Intercontinental Indianapolis Jamestown, NY Johnstown Kansas City Lancaster* Las Vegas Lewisburg, WV Los Angeles Louisville Memphis Miami Milwaukee Minneapolis-Saint Paul Morgantown, WV Myrtle Beach Nashville New York-John F. Kennedy International New York-Laguardia Newark Norfolk Orlando Parkersburg, WV Philadelphia Phoenix Providence Raleigh-Durham Richmond Saint Louis Saint Petersburg-Clearwater Salt Lake City San Francisco San Juan

Syracuse Tampa International

Cancun Montego Bay ( begins December 22, 2007) Punta Cana Toronto

Does America West still serve Pittsburgh?
Ok, yeah I know about the whole merger ( and by the way AW bought US, they just kept the US Airways name). Some airports say under airlines and Destinations: US Airways operated by America West Airlines ( Phoenix, Las Vegas) , but in Pittsburgh Phoenix and LAS Vegas are under US Airways. So does America West operate any flights from PIT??? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cookiecake4392 (talk • contribs).
 * Not to my knowledge. US Airways combined the two and then cut one of the flights to Phoenix (A320) and cut one flight to Las Vegas, and recently downgraded two 757s to two A320s.  NW036 00:29, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Not to turn this in to a forum, but I just recently flew on a US Airways Express flight from Philadelphia and the exterior of the plane was the new white livery, but the inside of the aircraft was still completely America West. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Weatherman1126 (talk • contribs).

Pittsburgh-Montréal Flight?
Hi. I noticed that people keep removing/replacing Montréal as a destination. I can't find direct flights between Montréal and Pittsburgh on any carrier at any time. Why is it there? nycstudent578 04:09, 4 July 2007 (UTC) There is still pittsburgh-montreal with air canada, but the UsAir route is being cut, even though they may or may not codeshare.
 * Expressjet dba Continental Express operated this flight until this week. It was routed PIT-EWR-YUL, but I see now that they have removed it from their schedules as of today.  When I searched the flight last night, it was still available. NW036 04:49, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, on searching the actual Continental website, I see that this flight still is in fact operated. The flight number is CO2052 and on the website is shown as one flight with a brief stopover in Newark. NW036 05:03, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
 * The Montreal portion is only an extention of the Pittsburgh-Newark service -- it is not a nonstop service from Pittsburgh. In fact, many carriers' flights into their hubs from Pittsburgh continue on to other destinations with the same flight number. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by StR100 (talk • contribs).
 * But if you check other international airports, they often have continuing service if it is international, on the same plane, and with the same flight number. Just because Montreal and Pittsburgh are not as large as Singapore or Los Angeles, well I see no reason as to why we should be inconsistent in the agreed upon policy of one-stop international flights being included. NW036 16:55, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Minor Delta Updates
I removed the Salt Lake City 'seasonal' tag from Delta's service destinations, as the latest schedule release indicates the MD-90 staying through the winter. The SkyWest CRJ-900 will continue to operate on Saturdays in place of the MD-90. Also, I removed Cincinnati mainline, as the new schedule also indicates (as of now) the 737-800 will not return in December as previously thought, leaving just the Comair and Chautauqua regional jets. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.223.171.39 (talk • contribs).
 * What scheduling information are you using? Delta's website and other online sources contradict you on both counts.  Not that I disagree as I can completely believe Delta doing that since SLC has been said to be doing rather well. NW036 01:48, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * The most recent update (first available July 19) of Delta's downloadable timetable application. I see the website still reflects the prior schedule. Barring the timetable being incorrect, I imagine the website schedule should be updated in the next couple of days. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.223.171.39 (talk • contribs).

Ok what is the 763 flight from KSJC-KPIT-KATL? should it be up there? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.120.169.138 (talk) 03:28, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

how do I join the PIT supporters on Airliners.net ? I looked all around the website and couldn't find anything.
jfglkfgfklogfd —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cookiecake4392 (talk • contribs).


 * I don't think it's a real group. I think it's just the people on the website who happen to appreciate the airport. --Matt 20:34, 22 July 2007 (UTC)


 * That's exactly right. We don't have a group on their. Just a bunch of us who support the airport and the region ALOT!! I know most of us have "respected" the others on there. You have to have 20 posts to do that though. My nickname on there is PITops. Look me up. Luketenley

What year did Air Tran begin service to PIT?
Someone recently told me that they used to have nonstop service to chicago, philadelphia, and New York from PIT. Is that true? If so when was that, because right now they only go to Atlanta, Orlando, and Fort Lauderdale. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.95.166.184 (talk • contribs).
 * If I recall correctly AirTran began service in 2000. They did initially try to go against US Airways' strong hub in Pittsburgh at the time by flying to strong business destinations.  If they chose to try again now, they might have more success, but other airlines such as Southwest and JetBlue would seem to have beaten them to it and would likely crush any new competition on those routes. NW036 17:57, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * You are right. They did start service in 2000. They wanted to turn it into a small focus city but with the prices of the gate and landing fees, they chose to go elsewhere. Akron/ Canton Regional is now a small focus city. luketenley 23:50, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I believe AirTran started MDW, LGA, and PHL from PIT sometime in 2001 and those services ended early in 2002, if I have my timeline correct here. US Airways retaliated heavily, slashing fares on those routes, adding frequencies, offering Dividend Miles bonuses, and even announced Pittsburgh-Chicago/Midway service, which never started. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.223.179.114 (talk • contribs).

Any nonstop europe flights soon.
Everyone ( Dan Onorato, Kent George, and other people) keeps saying that they are in ongoing discussion with airlines about nonstop flights to europe. they say they are working on it. Does anybody have any news on that? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.95.166.184 (talk • contribs).


 * No news as of yet. There is constantly rumor going around about new airlines starting service but I have yet to hear any international rumors lately. It would be nice. luketenley 22:22, 28 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I'd just like to point out that Wikipedia is not a forum and that general chat about the airport should probably be on flyertalk.com. Cheers --Matt 22:42, 30 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Go to www.airliners.net and go to the forum. Alot of PIT threads over there. luketenley 23:53, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

I think the Cleveland (departure only) should be removed from USA 3000. I can't find the flights in the Airline's reservation system.
Also, does anybody know how frequent the Cleveland flights are because I have only seen them once on the flight status page on www.flypittsburgh.com. How often do they fly? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.95.166.184 (talk • contribs).
 * I have removed it from USA3000 as I can't find in on their website (schedule or route map). If someone can provide a source for the service, feel free to add it again. Sox 23 16:56, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

I changed 80 destinations to 64 destinations, in the opening paragraph.
I can only find 64, but not 80. so if anybody can find the other 16 cities let me know. 72.95.166.184 23:44, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Does anybody know the Atis telephone number(s) for PIT and/or AGC?
I have searched all around the internet and can't find a directory of Atis telephone numbers. If somebody finds it I think we should put it on the PIT page.72.95.166.240 01:18, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

how can concourse E be an auxilary security checkpoint?
listen, after you go through the main security checkpoint you come to the subways that take you to the airside terminal, then you come to the escalators that take you up to the e concourse. So if you decide to use the E concurse checkpoint can't you get on one of the subways and go to the airside terminal before you get to the checkpoint? 72.77.65.78 01:11, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * To use E as the auxiliary security checkpoint, you exit the check-in counter area, walk outside across a closed street, and walk into the E terminal, then get screened and take the escalators down to the subway. --Matt 01:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Do the Toronto flights operated by Piedmont Airlines leave from Concourse A or C?
It is listed under Concourse A but under Concourse C it says that all international flights pass through Concourse C. 72.77.65.78 21:20, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Flights from Toronto, Montréal and other major Canadian cities pre-clear U.S. Immigration at the Canadian airport, so they need not use international facilities upon arrival in the United States. FCYTravis 21:29, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Who took Miami off of the US Airways mainline destination list and why?
I checked US Airways flight schedules and the seasonal service to Miami will resume soon, so I am puttingit back on.72.77.68.169 20:23, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

cause only American Eagle E135 serves the route now —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.120.169.138 (talk) 03:33, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

I think it would be good to create a former nonstop routes section. What are some thoughts on that?
Most of them would be US airways flights. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.77.68.169 (talk) 20:36, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * This has been talked about before (1, 2, 3) and consensus is it's not really appropriate. --Matt 21:49, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

we should still keep it, as there can be a lot of intrest in it, and some other airports have that section.

What happened to AWA flights?
They're still listed on the schedule on usairways.com. Why were they removed? Bcamp09 23:41, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
 * The US Airways certificate merger has been completed, and US Airways and America West are now flying under a unified operating certificate. The fact that they operated under separate certs was the only substantive reason to keep AWA flights separate from US Airways flights. FCYTravis 00:48, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Now that the US Airways certificate merger is now completed, is the callsign for US Airways "Cactus" or "US Air"? Bucs2004 18:58, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

History Update and Correction
I corrected the original name of the airport which was called Greater Piitsburgh Airport. It was renamed Greater Pittsburgh International Airport around 1974 or 1975, and the nickname even after the name change was Greater Pitt. This does require a citation that I will look for and update. Ng1a 14:54, 27 September 2007 (UTC)Ng1a 14:56, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

US Airways cutbacks news.
I think we all need to calm down since the recent US Airways news. We need to figure out a good way to edit this in the article instead of saying Ends January 6 every two words. Bcamp09 01:10, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

US Air sevice cuts!!!!
ok, everyone calm down let's just wait until tomorrow when the media will have the final lists of cut cities because i heard on KDKA that nashville was being cut and then i went on www.usair.com and on January 23 there will be two nonstop flights to Nashville. So don't go crazy with the "ends January 6" thing yet because we have all been hearing different reports72.95.177.239 01:22, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

"All service ends"
In regards to the statement that all service is ending for the Colgan Air service, and others, that's not completely true, yet. If you look at page five of this press release, some of the destinations to be cut are to be announced, not officially cut. That's why this is erroneous, and should probably be changed to "service possibly ending", or something similar. Best, Weatherman1126  (  talk  ) 16:18, 21 October 2007 (UTC).

Nashville flights are not ending!!!!
I took the "ends Jan 6" off of Nashville because look at this link and on Jan 31 there are 2 nonstop flights to Nashville-BNA —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.95.176.168 (talk) 22:35, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Air Midwest and Colgan Flights
US Airways said they were possibly ending when they cut all the flights, but they're still on the schedule so I just removed the service ending for now. US keeps changing the schedules with these cut flights. Bcamp09 (talk) 19:43, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Sice when does Piedmont Airlines fly to Columbus?
Colgan Air used to but that ended in early October. Piedmont airlines does not. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.77.71.120 (talk) 14:26, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Actually they do, search the schedule and you'll see that it operates on Saturdays until January 5th. Bcamp09 21:39, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Seasonal US flights to Florida and PR?
Are all these recent startups to RSW, PBI, and SJU (and CUN?) all seasonal? Do they end on January 5th? It seems odd that US would have service from December 26th to January 5th. Bcamp09 (talk) 01:38, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Disputes about mall information
Pittsburgh International Airport may be the first in the North America to have fair prices and diverse stores within its terminal, but Schipol airport in Amsterdam has had this "skymall" ideas since at least the early 1980s. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.146.13.97 (talk) 02:35, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

AirTran flights to Florida
I think the AirTran flights to Fort Lauderdale, Fort Myers, and Tampa may be year round now, not seasonal. They are bookable through October. I'm thinking about taking the seasonal tag off them. Any thoughts? Bcamp09 (talk) 22:18, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd wait to see if they're bookable through December. Best, Weatherman1126  (  talk  ) 20:26, 22 January 2008 (UTC).

US Airways Gates
In concourse B, I sometimes see US Airways using B27 and B29, along with their 10 gates consisting of B26, B28, and B30-B37. I am going to change their gate assignments to include these. Also, they only use baggage claims B,D,F according to flypittsburgh.com's arrivals. A,C,E sit unused. I am going to change this as well. Bcamp09 (talk) 03:05, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm not so shure about that, that is what it says on the arrivials page, but officially, they still do own them. TravelCRAZED (talk) 00:51, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

The gates or the claims? Bcamp09 (talk) 03:45, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Air Tran and Southwest
I have two questions, why on the schedule on the official website of the airport soutwest has not used A1,A3,A5 and using A7 and A9? Second, Airtran is listed to using C52 and C54, but on the schedule, they do not use C52, i changed it, is it right. Tajtheman (talk) 00:35, 4 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Southwest is renovating the gate areas of A1 and A3, then soon A5, so they are using A7 and A9 while this is going on. Don't follow what the airport website says, it still says US Airways is using gates in the A concourse. Also, I would say C52 isn't in use because I have never seen any airtran flights go through there before. Bcamp09 (talk) 23:17, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

What kind of renovations? Steelcity95 (talk) 00:57, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Updated Pictures
We need to get updated pictures. If anyone is going to pittsburgh airport please snap some pictures. Thanks Tajtheman (talk) 23:25, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

I'll Try! I'm new! Steelcity95 (talk) 00:57, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Slow
No one has been editing lately, so lets start doing it now. Thanks Tajtheman (talk) 23:27, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

What is the source of the alleged US Airways cutbacks in August? Thanks. Chessman17 (talk) 17:04, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Direct vs. non-stop cities for Southwest
There have been some recent edits regarding cities served by Southwest at PIT that I feel could benefit from discussion. SWA is fairly unique in that many of their flight numbers are "direct" in that you don't change planes, but not "non-stop" in that you might book at trip PIT-LAX, but then actually fly PIT-MDW-PHX-LAX (purely fictious example). I would propose we only list/note the cities served non-stop from PIT. Thoughts? Civilengtiger (talk) 18:17, 18 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Well you do have a point, you can't book from pit to LAX, so since this is encyclopedic we should ether take it away or create a new section, Matt if you could help with this discussion that would be great, since you do know a lot about pit. Thanks Tsks9520 (talk) 00:01, 19 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I think this would be a better discussion for WikiProject Airports to make sure it's consistent across the whole project. My gut feeling is to agree with you, Civilengtiger, but the WikiProject page makes it sound like we should be listing LAX in your example because Southwest doesn't have hubs. (see WikiProject Airports). Hope that helps, --Matt (talk) 12:49, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Our standards are to list only non-stop destinations for WN. Otherwise, you could essentially list every single city that Southwest flies to from every city Southwest serves, making the destination lists utterly useless. FCYTravis (talk) 17:17, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree, but where is this documented? Anywhere formally in the project, or just scattered in talk pages? --Matt (talk) 05:51, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it's in the project page, which says However, avoid listing direct flights that contain a stop at a domestic hub, as virtually all of these are simply flights from one "spoke city" to a hub, with the plane continuing from the hub to a second spoke city. FCYTravis (talk) 06:14, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, but Southwest doesn't do hubs. Should that include focus cities? --Matt (talk) 14:17, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Southwest doesn't officially have anything - hubs or focus cities. They don't officially make any separation between any of their stations. That said, MDW, PHX, LAS, OAK, et al. have as many daily flights as some legacy carrier hubs. The reality is that they're essentially hubs, whether WN wants to admit it or not. FCYTravis (talk) 17:23, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't think I'm fully getting my point across - all I'm saying is that it sounds like the guideline needs clarification. As far as I know, Southwest also does same flight number through non focus cities, so the guideline would be ok with listing further destinations. --Matt (talk) 17:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, thankfully, not everything on Wikipedia has to be written down in excruciating detail. :) If you want to be WP:BOLD and edit the guidelines, go for it. Otherwise, the status quo is fine. FCYTravis (talk) 17:51, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

US Airways Aruba?
Why is there a flight 9244 from Aruba to PIT at gate C57? Bcamp09 (talk) 14:35, 21 April 2008 (UTC)


 * In case anyone else is scratching their head like I was, the airport's website currently shows the following arrival: US Airways 9244 C57 2:15PM (baggage claim) D On Time.
 * As to why? I can only guess it's a charter. None of the US Airways express partners have numbers that high . --Matt (talk) 15:19, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Flightstats.com doesn't have good information on this flight, but it does show it. Usually flightstats shows you equipment, so it's kind of odd they aren't for this flight --Matt (talk) 15:23, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Continental Arrival A2
Today there was a arrival in A2 by continental, why was that, are they changing gates? What about southwest are they ever going to use A1 and A3 again, i can't imagine that they are doing this at all their destinations. Wikilover00 (talk) 00:48, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thus the problem with listing gate usage by airlines. It's generally consistent, but not always. Perhaps there was a delayed flight at one of Continental's regular gates, so CO operations needed to use another gate for an arrival. A2 was open and available, so they used it. With Common Use Terminal Environment software, any airline's staff can handle an arrival from their carrier at any gate. Such minutia are really beyond encyclopedic listing. FCYTravis (talk) 02:04, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * If you looked at the arrivals at the end of the night at Pittsburgh there were 3 Continental airplanes that were to be parked there over night. This has happened a few times in the past couple of weeks with other airlines as well not just Continental.  In regards to Southwest, gates A1 and A3 are being remodeled, and they will be used after they are remodeled.  At least that's what I have heard.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.165.62.235 (talk) 03:55, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

US Airways Club Picture
Could someone get a picture of the exterior of the US Airways Club? Bcamp09 (talk) 21:30, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Anybody? Bcamp09 (talk) 01:02, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

New Security Prosedures
I have not been to or heard about the new security prosedures at the pittsburgh airport much. Can someone more familiar with them add the info to the pittsburgh page. TravelCRAZED (talk) 17:00, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Anybody TravelCRAZED (talk) 20:24, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Catering Facilities
New Catering Facilities opened today at PIT, can someone familiar with them add a section about them on the PIT page? TravelCRAZED (talk) 20:24, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Hub for Trans States and Republic?
Is PIT still a hub for these express carriers? I wouldn't say Republic, but Trans States operates most of its US Airways express flights out of PIT. Bcamp09 (talk) 23:43, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't know that I would call PIT a "hub" for Republic -- they only fly to other US hubs/focus cities. As for Trans States, PIT is indeed the only city they operate US Express flights from. They still have a handful of cities (BDL, EWR, RDU, STL, etc.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by StR104 (talk • contribs) 00:59, 7 June 2008 (UTC)