Talk:Plague

Plagues of animals
Should there be an entry on plagues of animals, e.g. mice plagues?


 * Done. --David Broadfoot (talk) 14:59, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Major re-arrange
I have re-arranged the was Plague was treated navigationally.


 * Plague now redirects to Plague (disambiguation), this may change in the future (I'm not bothered at the moment).


 * All the instacnes of the Bubonic plague are now on List of Bubonic plague outbreaks (this list was previously at Plague).

These changes may be confusing and I'm happy to disucss them. --Commander Keane 10:37, 3 November 2005 (UTC)


 * OK, discussion about this is occuring at Talk:List of Bubonic plague outbreaks--Commander Keane 05:00, 4 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Please note that my comments above have been altered. The piping used was introduced by another editor. When I orginially wrote it there was no piping.--Commander Keane 01:17, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Types of Plague
By far the most commonly encountered is Bubonic plague which usually kills about 65% of those infected within 2-5 days after the disease appears, and the more lethal pneumonic form which kills almost invariably, even more rapidly. A third variety, so-called septacaemic plague occurs early on during bubonic outbreaks and kills very suddenly without the characteristic swelling in the lymph glands that is associated with bubonic plague or the bleeding from every conceivable orifice which was a feature of the much rarer pneumonic form.

Obesity plague
I removed the link to 'obesity plague'. I think that, even with a reference, it's too remotely removed from the purposes of a disambiguation page, since 'plague' is used to refer to all numbers of unpleasant things, but people aren't necessarily going to go searching for them using the word 'plague'. (I could provide plenty of links to: 'plague of cell phones!' and that's just the first example I thought of.) Marieblasdell 00:58, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Cool. I've been tempted to do so for a while! (John User:Jwy talk) 03:19, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

The Plague (Metal Band)
I know of a heavy metal band, The Plague, but I cannot find anything about them on the web. Will somebody living near Moorpark find out more about this band? --Jeffo bazoni

Today I Caught The Plague
The band Today I Caught The Plague is also refrenced in this article, im not sure why my description of the band was constantly removed. All i was trying to do was to elaborate on this group, if you still find that this information is irrelevant, i will let the topic of the page be.Innerprimate (talk) 22:58, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Logical arrangement?
So, what makes this more logical? Alphabetical is more encyclopedic? WBardwin 20:17, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Requested move 1 September 2021

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

– becausde clearly the disease is the primary meaning. Lembit Staan (talk) 09:11, 1 September 2021 (UTC) — Relisting. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 18:15, 8 September 2021 (UTC) — Relisting. Adumbrativus (talk) 01:24, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Plague → Plague (disambiguation)
 * Plague (disease) → Plague

Comment. Here's the clickstream data for the dab page, showing the number of times each link was followed during the month of March: Entries with < 10 clicks are not shown. Plague (disease) got about 40% of the total. – Uanfala (talk) 21:28, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * And beating the runner-up by a wiiiide margin. Lembit Staan (talk) 21:40, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * Weak oppose. Even though it's clear that the primary topic for plague is a disease, I have always understood that the word "plague" refers to any extremely contagious disease, not just the one caused by Yersinia pestis. J I P  &#124; Talk 03:27, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
 * So you agree that there is the primary topic. In this case your personal mindset is irrelevant. For example, for me "bug" is an error in software, rather than an insect or bacteria. Lembit Staan (talk) 03:33, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
 * It seems to me that they disagree, as they said a plague is any extremely contagious disease, not just one particular contagious disease. Unless I misunderstood the remark. Which topic do you think is primary? Should "plague" redirect to Pandemic? (For the record, Bug is a disambiguation page.) —&#8288;&#8202;&#8288;BarrelProof (talk) 14:44, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, you understood me exactly. By the way, if I have to have a preferred pronoun, it's "he/him". J I P  &#124; Talk 01:56, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Support Per WP:NOTDICTIONARY. While "plague" may be a general term for a variety of diseases and other maladies, the relevant primary encyclopedia article is the article on the actual Plague disease.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 05:55, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Relisting comment: relisted to allow more opportunity for participation as the page Plague (disease) wasn't previously notified. Adumbrativus (talk) 01:24, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Support. This word is from Latin plaga. The Latin word has nothing to do with disease. It just means an expanse, "a lot of it." We owe the English word to Wyclif's translation of the Vulgate: “Of thes thre plagis the thridde paart of men is slayn, of fijr [fire], and of smoke, and of brunston.” (Rev. 9:18, 1382) As far as something that you might write an encyclopedia article about, Yersinia pestis is the clear primary topic. See Encylopedia.com. 99to99 (talk) 14:33, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose per JIP: Lots of diseases are called plagues, and various other things are called a plague too. Moreover, even among diseases caused by Yersinia pestis, there are multiple candidate topics – that is not really a single disease, at least from the symptomatic perspective and historical perspective. For example, plague might refer to the the Black Death, or to Bubonic plague more generally, or to Pneumonic plague. We should perhaps consider moving Plague (disease) to a more disambiguated title rather than to a non-disambiguated title. It is already somewhat written as a disambiguating explanation already. —&#8288;&#8202;&#8288;BarrelProof (talk) 14:44, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 15:01, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Support as proposed. Nothing else would be what you'd expect to find at plague Red   Slash  19:07, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose I don't think the disease caused by Yersinia pestis is primary over the generic term for an epidemic. There are also other terms which, will not primary, are relevant enough to mean this is not a TWODAB situation. User:力 (power~enwiki,  π,  ν ) 17:24, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Opppose I would also assume that "plague" refers to a generic disease, not a specific disease caused by Yersinia pestis, though perhaps that is a misunderstanding of "plague". Should there instead be a WP:DABCONCEPT for plague? Natg 19 (talk) 01:05, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose per WP:PTOPIC#1 - "A topic is primary for a term with respect to usage if it is highly likely—much more likely than any other single topic, and more likely than all the other topics combined—to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that term." 40% of views is well below that threshold. Narky Blert (talk) 08:32, 25 September 2021 (UTC)