Talk:Planetary boundary layer

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Ugh, cites?
Why aren't there any cites in the first section? Or some of the others? And shouldn't it have somewhere near the beginning just how high it is? Even reading through it, it isn't too clear. 198.144.209.8 (talk) 10:32, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

ie in part of the article it makes it sound like there's multiple parts of the atmospheric boundary layer

Hartmann's Global Physical Climatology says its depth varies between 20m - "several" km (whatever that may mean), and then gives 1 km as a "typical" depth.

Also it should mention that its the lowest part of the troposphere. (same book works as a cite)

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The following text was placed on the article page rather than the talk page by Rabrown99. Deditos 15:42, 20 October 2006 (UTC).

replace: Physical laws and equations of motions, which govern the planetary boundary layer dynamics and microphysics, are strongly non-linear and considerably influenced by properties of the earth's surface and evolution of the processes in the free atmosphere. To deal with this complicity, the whole array of turbulence modelling has been proposed. However, they are often not accurate enough to met practical requests. Significant improvements are expected from application of a large eddy simulation technique to problems related to the PBL.

with: Physical laws and equations of motion which govern the planetary boundary layer dynamics and microphysics are strongly non-linear. There is considerabe influence by properties of the earth's surface and evolution of the processes in the free atmosphere. To deal with the complicity of turbulence parameterization, a large array of turbulence modelling schemes have been proposed. Generally they are not accurate enough for all modelling applications. Often, the simplest linearization model, that of Ekman (1905) is used. However, the nonlinear prediction of organized large eddies (Brown, 1970) has been verified with satellite remote sensing data. Significant improvements have been made for large-scale modelling using nonlinear similarity parameterization. These are currently used successfully in numerical weather prediction models. Other contributions have been made with numerical applications modelling these OLE in large eddy simulation techniques.

Merger from wind gradient into this article
The wind gradient article talks about microscale effects within the planetary boundary layer, and should likely be merged into this article. Comments encouraged. Thegreatdr 14:45, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Atmospheric Cap
http://www.theweatherprediction.com/habyhints2/405/ http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-AnthAlZZzxs/UTjfX_qPxCI/AAAAAAAABK0/EDqW1JEcM_A/s1600/cap.PNG

I am surprised Wiki does not have an article about Atmospheric Caps. An atmospheric cap is important in meteorology and Michigan. It defines the Planetary Boundary layer. I am sure the NWS meteorologists have just missed an important topic. I could not begin to write the story myself. Ah ... ask Jim Cantorie he knows about these things.

Basically, an atmospheric cap is not just warm air aloft and cold air near the ground. (See the links) The Lower Peninsula of Michigan is between two of the largest glacial lakes. (Taken together across the Straits of Mackinaw, The Largest Great Lake.) At night our planetary boundary layer cools down because the sun is not shining, glacial lakes are cold and Relative Humidity is high. In the daytime when the sun is shining the Lower Peninsula warms up, warm air rises in cool air to the cap. Relative Humidifies are low because water vapor rises in air. We get either fair weather cumulous or stratus clouds depending on the strength of the cap.

I also wish the mathematicians would isolate their unknown variables in parametric equations I could just plug into my Decimal BASIC programs. I forgot what to differentiate but I can still iterate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.133.90.215 (talk) 14:57, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

"Contain" or "restrain" turbulent eddies vertically?
The current text in the article includes:

"Atmospheric stability occurring at night with radiative cooling tends to contain turbulent eddies vertically, increasing the wind gradient."

It might have been caused by a combination of some knowledge of meteorology and the fact that English is not my mother tongue, but reading the words "contain turbulent eddies" while knowing that radiative cooling tends to decrease turbulent eddy activity left me wondering for a while, until I realized that "to contain" can actually also mean "to restrain" and "to confine" apart from "to include as a part". So, might I suggest replacing "to contain" with another word, just to reduce the chances for readers to be wrongfooted?Redav (talk) 23:36, 20 July 2020 (UTC)