Talk:Planning cultures

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Mention: Planning cultures is different from cultural planning. This article will not develop on the exhaustive list of planning cultures, but will provide some relevant examples/case studies.

Proposed sections: 1. Article Heading 2. History and context of Planning cultures 3. Indigenous planning 4. Canadian planning culture 5. Sustainability planning culture

Roles: - Coordination and read through + photos (Emily) - Indigenous planning (Hollie) - History and context (Alex) - Sustainability planning culture (Stefan) - Canadian planning (Ernette) - Moving forward (Andrew) Ernettita (talk) 17:48, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

Hey folks, I'm not sure if I should add or remove sections on international planning cultures; so far I have Japan, China and India, but could also add the UK, South Africa, EU and USA. Thoughts? I'm also wary that these inputs are relying on John's one article in Progress in Planning.
 * I think that what is in there now is a great sample of international planning cultures, probably sufficient for our article. Although if somewhere else was jumping out at you, of course, go ahead!EmilycarriganG (talk) 16:36, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Also, instead of creating a new section for "moving forward", I thought I would build on "Planning cultures in transition: institutional transformation". I've added a piece in there about planning education programs, and could add more if appropriate. Andrewconsiders (talk) 20:56, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

'''Hi Team! Here are some thoughts and a proposed revised structure from my first read through. Let me know what you think!''' EmilycarriganG (talk) 16:36, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Revised structure: 1. Lead (article heading) 2. History and context
 * I think this is a great brief introduction, but could benefit from one more section focusing on/clarifying what "planning cultures" are in relation to regular planning.
 * I also think more citations, from more different sources would really strengthen this.

3. Planning cultures in transition
 * I moved this up from the end because it builds on the context really effectively and I didn't realize that it would be a good base for the 'moving forward' section, so we could move it back to the end if you'd like.
 * Paragraph 2, the last sentence ("Institutional change can be theorized as a process comprising six stages: equilibrium, shock event, deinstitutionalization, preinstitutionalization, theorization, diffusion, and deinstitutionalization”) seems to be floating a bit on its own, perhaps it could be further clarified or probably could just be deleted.
 * In paragraph 3, last sentence, I changed to 'planning culture' from 'the planning profession' - is this OK?

4. International planning culture
 * As discussed in the FB message, I think we need a few more citations, especially for "Citizens who take issue with planning decisions may sue the local government, file a petition, or engage in public demonstration, however, these actions are largely futile”.
 * Also, love the section on Russia, its a really interesting culture/context. Wondering if you could add maybe one sentence about the current planning culture there?
 * "Informal settlements" is a great concept for a link, but I'm not sure to which page. What would you suggest we link it to? The "Slum" article page seems to come up most closely.

5. Indigenous planning culture 6. Canadian planning culture
 * Paragraph 2, second sentence: "Jill Grant explains that a potential solution to these conflicts that has been adopted by Canadian planners is a culture of planning where the professional works proactively to anticipate conflicts and mitigate them before they reach a tipping point.” Can we adjust 'culture of planning' to 'planning culture’? Also, maybe one more sentence to clarify how this is a solution to the regional approach and challenges posed by multiculturalism in Canadian planning?

7. Moving forward
 * Andrew, are you still going to do this section as well? I would be happy to take this on after doing some more read throughs, as you've already written a really robust contribution! EmilycarriganG (talk) 16:36, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

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General comments
Hi all,

I've added a lead and went through the whole thing once more. Moved institutional section back to the end. Please feel free to make edits in the lead.

Everything looks great, but I think we need a few more citations in the second and third paragraphs of the "development/history/context" section, as well as in the opening paragraph of the "comparing international planning cultures" section, and the second paragraph of the "institutional" section.

The Indigenous planning section looks great! Wondering if it would benefit from clarifying that indigenous planning cultures exist as their own cultures, and may occupy the same location as a settler/western planning culture that suppressed it. Also wondering about whether to capitalize Indigenous all the time?

Go team! EmilycarriganG (talk) 01:04, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Great article! I really liked, the one doubt that stays with my is the relationship with planning theory. Injeniero (talk) 19:52, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

Relationship to other topics
Hello, I'm starting to review this article and one thing that came up is the links to other articles like the one regarding Urban Planning in China. Injeniero (talk) 21:53, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

Hi! I added a couple of "Main article" links and a see also section, hopefully this will help you with orphan status. Injeniero (talk) 19:51, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

Indigenous planning
Hi all, I have moved most of the Indigenous planning cultures section from this article to the Indigenous Planning one. I have included a redirect so that the editing history will be preserved. This may not be the exact way WP does it (although I did try), but I hope that it will preserve the history enough for the prof and other editors to understand. CREdwards (talk) 20:17, 4 December 2016 (UTC)