Talk:Plant perception (physiology)

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Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT (talk) 06:45, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

First posting of this topic
This is a first step in developing an article about plant perception as is mediated by the well understood and mundane processes of plant physiology. If the editors of the article on Plant perception (which deals with pseudoscientific or paranormal aspects of the subject) do not dispute within a reasonable time I plan to later come back and move that article to another page. Please see Talk:Plant perception for further discussion about possible places to move that article.

Once the move is accomplished I plan to convert the original Plant perception page to a disambiguation page and change its present pointers to wherever the content of the present page ends up.Trilobitealive 02:31, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Redirects from Plant perception
I have started to change over the Plant perception page to its new home as Plant perception (paranormal) and will be changing associatec links over the next few days. It will be needed to change the redirect page to a disambiguation page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Trilobitealive (talk • contribs) 15:02, 31 December 2006 (UTC). Trilobitealive 15:02, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Plant pain
Does anyone know if there is a discussion on Wiki about whether or not plants feel pain? This is a topic of discussion on many boards and I would like for it to be easy to find info concerning this. Any thoughts?--Hraefen Talk 22:54, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

The Pain article briefly mentions a lack of evidence for plant nociception, otherwise I found nothing aside from Plant perception (paranormal), which presents no scientific evidence. It may be valuable to have some information on the subject and its surrounding debate in this article. Cbussiere (talk) 04:00, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

questions
i've added templates for a couple of passages that i would like to see better explained: cheers, k kisses 15:30, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) "they can also smell, see, "feel" and hear" - i doubt that plants can see, smell or hear in the "sense" that animals do. could this be clarified?
 * 2) "producing chemicals that defend insects or attract predators" - should this be "defend them from insects", perhaps?

Discussion on merge
This page needs a little editing. Any additional thoughts on (or whether) merging with Plant neurobiology? We can discuss the title of this page. Sidelight12 (talk) 01:25, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I think the merge with Plant intelligence has been rather unfortunate. The editors have mixed up neurobiology and plant intelligence and compacted it.  If the intelligence of plants is questioned, where are the refs?  Overall: a thumbs down.  I'm too busy to be of more help, I hope someone else will take it up.  pgr94 (talk) 22:07, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Even though I have disagreed with you on the content, and I agree with the merge, I am sympathetic that more time was not allowed before going forward with the merge, to allow you to participate in the discussion. --Tryptofish (talk) 01:00, 6 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I should have given it a month. For what its worth, every bit of information and reference was brought over, some to other sections were it fit, so others' writings were not cut apart. Plant Neurobiology could have stood on its own to define the matter. If the section neurobiogy goes back, with a main article link, I have no disagreement with that. For the other article Plant intelligence, it was mostly a duplication of exact text, and both were about the subject of plant sensory, how and reflex. For whatever happens, the history and text history merge needs to be taken care of. I will leave further major editing on this article alone. Sidelight12 (talk) 02:04, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I realize that you are a relatively new editor, so that's OK and please don't worry about it. Just for your information, the usual habit is to allow a minimum of one week, so a month is not required unless the discussion becomes very controversial. --Tryptofish (talk) 19:11, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

beanstash (talk) 23:28, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
 * This merge is way better than flipping between articles and getting confused. Sidelight 12 Talk 13:16, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Do people see a distinction between plant cognition, plant intelligence and plant neurobiology? All of these concepts seem very similar to me. I was not following this in 2012, but I think it should be considered to integrate most of the material on these topics into the plant cognition page, since these metaphors are accepted by only a minority of plant scientists, but they are currently taking up almost half of the real-estate on this page.

Pathway signals
opinions on should pathway signals in plants get its own article? an article on pathway signals exists already. Sidelight 12 Talk 08:22, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Could you please link to the existing page? I ask because I think the answer depends upon the content that we already have. With that caveat, I tend to think that it's probably a good idea to create the new page. --Tryptofish (talk) 22:24, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Signal transduction and I missed Cell signalling. This article lightly covers it. - Sidelight 12 Talk 00:29, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
 * OK, that's what I figured, but I wanted to make sure. Yes, I strongly support creating such a page, because the general pages do not focus on plant cells. --Tryptofish (talk) 21:56, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your feedback. I think so too, even though its almost borderline, this article would be well suited to be a hub for this amount of information. Someone on the page Talk:Plant disease resistance asked a similar question, and I carried it here since this is closer to plant pathway signals than any other article. Sidelight 12 Talk 01:38, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

An update on this subject, maybe
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/361/6407/1068 Gloria K. Muday, Heather Brown-Harding: Nervous system-like signaling in plant defense Science Vol. 361, Issue 6407, pp. 1068-1069 ~ u v u l u m (talk) 07:51, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

Not true
"Some plants are capable of rapid movement: the so-called "sensitive plant" (Mimosa pudica) responds to even the slightest physical touch by quickly folding its thin pinnate leaves such that they point downwards,[citation needed] and carnivorous plants such as the Venus flytrap (Dionaea muscipula) produce specialized leaf structures that instantaneously snap shut when touched or landed upon by insects."

No, the Venus flytrap does not "instantaneously" snap shut. It requires three brushes of its sensor hairs within a certain amount of time.2601:200:C000:1A0:2D51:5ACE:B8DE:C7AF (talk) 20:08, 18 January 2021 (UTC)