Talk:Play (UK magazine)

Requested move
There is a US-based magazine called play magazine for which no Wikipedia article exists (that I can find, anyway). But in order to create such an article, there needs to be a place to put it. Currently, the disambig and redirect pages all seem to assume that the UK mag is the only one by that name. If I'm wrong, and the US mag does have a page, the meta pages need to be changed to reflect that. I may not have chosen the best new name for this article, but that is why I am requesting a move rather than bravely and stridently changing it myself. Krychek 16:23, 30 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I think Play (UK magazine) is the usual format for what you are trying to achieve, but this change would only become necessary once a second article exists. Until then, the simpler disambiguation format is preferable. Even then, the difference between "Play Magazine" and "Play (magazine)" may be enough to separate the two articles. --Stemonitis 16:40, 30 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Or just called the new article Play (US Magazine). Why should the UK version move for the US version? HyperBlossom 20:01, 30 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I discovered this through WP:RM. Just a comment. Generally, in a case like this, it's best to wait until the article is started. And then have 3 articles. A disam page for Play magazine which has links for Play (US) and Play (UK). And move this article to Play (UK). It's how we usually handle situations like this. --WoohookittyWoohoo! 07:19, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Why move? To avoid confusion. Vegaswikian 23:12, 31 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Stemonitis, having both "Play Magazine" and "Play (magazine)" sounds like a bad idea to me. The obvious solution, indeed, is to make Play (US magazine) and Play (UK magazine) (but first check the MoS to see what the style is for "U.S." in article titles; I'm not sure).


 * An even better idea would be to figure out what the magazines are about, and mention that: Play (theater magazine) and Play (gaming magazine), for example. Not only is this more help to the casual reader, it won't need to be re-thunk-out when Play (UK magazine) opens a New York office. (But if they're both gaming magazines, then this won't work.)


 * The UK version is about games for PlayStation only. The US version is about video games of all kinds, as well as anime. Krychek 14:05, 1 June 2007 (UTC)


 * And then, as Woohookitty says, it makes even more sense not to burn your bridges until you've crossed them. There's no need for disambiguation yet. --Quuxplusone 04:43, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, here's what I did. I created Play (U.S. magazine) (sorry, it's still a stub at this point). I created Play magazine (disambiguation) and redirected Play magazine --no parens-- there. (Play magazine --no parens-- used to redirect to the U.K. version.) Finally, I moved Play (magazine) --with parens-- to Play (UK magazine) and added "other uses" notes to both the U.S. and UK pages. I would not be surprise to hear that I've missed something, so please let me know. In particular, I'd like to know if the articles listed in What links here for Play (magazine) --with parens-- need to be manually updated, or if there's a bot that will take care of it for me? I would like for Play (magazine) --with parens-- to link to the disambig page as well, but I don't want to change it until the "links to" situation has been addressed. Thanks for all the feedback. Krychek 15:19, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Publisher
As I pointed out in these this edit summary, [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Play_(UK_magazine)&diff=922175509&oldid=922167535], Imagine Publishing is listed as the Publisher by the 2014 ABC certification source [//abc.org.uk/Certificates/18755923.pdf]. The 2016 last print issue ref [//www.vg247.com/2016/04/28/after-20-years-play-magazine-announces-its-last-print-issue/] doesn't directly say who the publisher is, but suggests buying it from the online Imagine Shop supporting Imagine Publishing as the publisher. In addition, as I noticed later [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Play_(UK_magazine)&diff=next&oldid=922175509] both that cover and our cover File:Play cover small.jpg clearly has an Imagine Publishing logo File:Imagine Publishing.jpg on it. Looking at our articles, it seems Future plc acquired Imagine in October 2016. So the current digital only edition is I assume published by Future plc. However it's possible Future plc maintained Imagine Publishing as a subbrand, our articles don't clearly specify. If they did, and the digital edition is still published under the sub-brand, while I'm not sure what the guidelines say if anything, to me it seems fair enough just to keep Imagine Publishing as the publisher. Our articles should clarify that Imagine Publishing is now a subbrand of Future plc. If Imagine Publishing has been abandoned as and the current digital one is published directly under the Future plc label then the article needs to reflect both, i.e. that it used to be published under Imagine Publishing until October 2016 or whatever when Future plc acquired Imagine Publishing. (It seems that Imagine was only established in 2005, I assume given it's the oldest Playstation magazine that it's older then that, so it was probably published by someone else too, perhaps Paragon Publishing.) I'd note that this was after the print edition ended, which suggests the print one was published by Imagine to the end hence why the last print source still suggests to buy it from the Imagine Shop etc. Nil Einne (talk) 11:22, 21 October 2019 (UTC)