Talk:Playback singer/Archive 1

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What about playback singing, during Live concerts, etc? 惑乱 分からん 00:03, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Apparent vandalism of the first line reverted - please change back if this was correct. 194.72.110.12 11:17, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

POV-check
This article presents Playback singing as a creation of the Bollywood industry only used in Bollywood films. But:
 * Playback singing is not a method only used in Bollywood. This is not an indian creation; a lot of singers around the world are singing playback.
 * Playback singing is not only used in cinema, this is a common practice in live concerts. Username9 21:38, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

In India approx 1000 movies releases per year and songs are very important in all movies. So Play back singing is very very popular in India and the subcontinent. Selavaraj 14:19, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree with wakuran and username9, India doesn't have a monopoly on playback. Code-Binaire 13:19, 27 January 2007 (UTC)


 * It seems that it's not a POV but a vocabulary confusion. I add a "see also" link to Lip-synching as it seems to be the right expression for what you think about. I'm not a natural english speaker so correct me if I'm wrong. Lacrymocéphale 20:41, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

I split the section "In India" and included some Hollywood references (there are further ones in the Lip-sync article) to broaden the article's subject. Of course this is just a first step and should be much improved. I understand that "playback singer" is a singer which only appears off-screen, this should not be confused with a singer dubbing his/her own voice on-screen (or on-stage). Rsnetto74 (talk) 02:36, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

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Most of the playback singers are initially trained in classical music, though they later often expand their range.[1] The sisters Lata Mangeshkar and Asha Bhosle, who have mainly worked in Hindi films, are two of the best-known and most prolific playback singers in India.[2][3][4] Mangeshkar holds the world record in the Guinness Book of World Records for having sung the most number of song recordings by any singer in the world. The record by a male singer is held by Mohammed Rafi, who enjoyed equal popularity among the male playback singers.[2].

Guines record about more records is not enough (1974 to 1991). Second thing it is already described. In India there are lot of popular singers. Bollywood is only 25% of total film industry. and rest 60% belong to South Indian films.

And says Mohammed Rafi sang more song than any other male singers. It is very false argument.

Please don't add any false argument. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rakozhi123 (talk • contribs) 13:09, 18 August 2009 (UTC)


 * All info is properly sourced while. All of what you say about 25% and "not enough" does not comply with any Wikipedia policy. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  13:12, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Dear friend, I request you to please avoid false argument from there. Your explanation is not enough

According to my research I found that

In 1974, The Guinness Book of Records listed Lata Mangeshkar as the most recorded artist in the history, stating that she had reportedly recorded "not less than 25,000 solo, duet and chorus backed songs in 20 Indian languages" between 1948 and 1974. Her record was contested by Mohammed Rafi, who was claimed to have sung around 28,000 songs.[17][18] After Rafi's death, in its 1984 edition, the Guinness Book of World Records stated Lata Mangeshkar's name for the "Most Recordings", but also stated Rafi's claim. The later editions of Guinness Book stated that Lata Mangeshkar had sung no fewer than 30,000 songs between 1948 and 1987.

But here we know SP Balasubramaniam and Yesudas Sang more than 40,000 Songs. They sing in various languages. Especilally in South Indian film industry. I can show you a graphical representation of Indian film industry. (21% Hindi, 20% Tamil,20% Telugu, 10% Malayalam, 10% Kannada, 19% rest) Check it: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ef/Indianfilms_bylanguage.PNG

if you want more details you can read this article by Hindu. It says that Yesudas sang 16 ( 4 songs*4 languages) songs in one day.
 * http://www.hindu.com/fr/2006/12/01/stories/2006120100400200.htm

Then please see the given web info

Yesudas Credits (40,000 + songs):
 * http://www.andhravilas.com/movienews.asp?id=81940&curPage=1 (Content added from Andhra Pradesh )
 * http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/article/28370.html (Content added from  Tamil Nadu)
 * http://in.movies.yahoo.com/news-detail/53802/K-J-Yesudas-honoured-doctorate.html (Content added from  Kerala ) (40,000 plus songs in a span of 45 years)
 * http://www.hindilyrix.com/singers/singer-yesudas.html added (Content added from  North India)
 * http://www.indiaonrent.com/view/m/music-without-barriers-kj-yesudas.html
 * http://www.carnaticindia.com/singers.html
 * http://www.loglar.com/singer.php?id=60766&lang=ja
 * http://movies.indiainfo.com/interviews/south/malayalam/yesudas.html

SP Balasubramaniam Credits (36,000 + songs)


 * http://www.hindu.com/2006/08/15/stories/2006081505050400.htm
 * http://www.spbala.com/press.asp (until 1999 he recorded 32 thousand songs it is a Guinness record)
 * http://www.spbala.com/Aboutspb.asp (36,000 plus songs in a span of 39 years)
 * http://www.thehindu.com/mp/2006/08/10/stories/2006081000210100.htm

Yesudas has bagged seven National Film Awards for the best singer in the Indian film industry which is a record no singer has equaled, let alone surpassed. He achieved seven award in 3 Indian languages (Telugu,Malayalam and Hindi). I don't add regional language award belong to each state film award and film fare awards.

S. P. Balasubrahmanyam has bagged 6 National Film Awards. He achieved seven award in 4 Indian languages (Telugu,Kannada, Tamil and Hindi)
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Film_Award_for_Best_Male_Playback_Singer

In the case of female playback singer, KS chitra, S Janaki, P Susheela, Vani Jayaram all are above Asha Bhosle and Lata Mangeshkar

See the link
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Film_Award_for_Best_Female_Playback_Singer

So I edited the above contents into its previous version —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rakozhi123 (talk • contribs) 14:48, 18 August 2009 (UTC)


 * National Film Awards? Are you kidding? They do not reflect popularity and talent. Meryl Streep has won only 2 Academy Awards and is much more regarded than many of those who won more than she. And AR Rahman has won two Oscars! You add information cited to Wikipedia and most of what you have given here is unreliable sources. Lata Mangeshkar have been credited with over 50,000 songs. Also, you add Yesudas where we discuss the importance of music directors and not singers. He is mentioned below. As for Lata Mangeshkar and Asha Bhosle being the best-known singers in India - it is a fact supperted by books and other reputable sources worldwide. Songs were made on them. They are an inspiration for all the singers in India, including KS Chitra. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  15:34, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Dear friend I can show you some website which claimed 50,000 song by Yesudas. But I don't do it now. Lata mangeshkar and Asha Bhosle may be popular in North India. But Yesudas and SPB are popular in Tamil, Telugu, Malayalam, Tulu and Kannada spoken world. Also they sang in lot of North Indian film songs. I felt Yesudas and SPB are more popular than Lata mangeshkar. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rakozhi123 (talk • contribs) 15:54, 18 August 2009 (UTC)


 * The difference between you and me is that I cite cources, which are also reliable, for what I say whereas you say things based on your personal opinion and cite sources which are unreliable mostly. The claim that you "can but you won't do it now" quite speaks for itself. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  16:14, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Dear friend,

Whatever be I mentioned above is that not my personal opinion, I gave you the exact resources very well. If you are not ready to read the above links, I felt the difference between you and me is I am tolerant but you are not. You have too much experience in Wikipedia, I haven't. Some time you can block me. I am not bother on it.

I gave you again three links belong to SPB' records


 * http://www.spbala.com/press.asp (until 1999 he recorded 32 thousand songs it is a Guinness record)
 * http://www.spbala.com/Aboutspb.asp (36,000 plus songs in a span of 39 years)
 * http://www.thehindu.com/mp/2006/08/10/stories/2006081000210100.htm

Please check it, never compare him with Muhammed rafi in the case of number of songs.

I mentioned about both Yesudas and Mohammed rafi receive wide public admiration. This is because in the case of southern region, Yesudas is considered as a god of music rather than a singer.

eg: please see the link : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxYesNRZ66I

I don't know how I talk with you. Sorry if you feel bad

rgds Rakozhi


 * All the singers receive public admiration - I'm talking about the music directors. As for records, from what the sources show, Lata Mangeshkar was also featured on the Guiness book of world records, and reportedly has a record of 50,000 songs. Mohammed Rafi as well. And most importantly, except for The Hindu all your sources are not reliable. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  17:25, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi Shahid,

Given websites provide the information about number of songs by Yesudas as


 * http://living.oneindia.in/celebrity/music/yesudas.html - 50,000 +
 * http://www.tribuneindia.com/2005/20050820/ldh3.htm (40,000+ in 2005)

But as like you I believe The Hindu News paper which provides information only after the confirmation. Can you show me any documents like Hindu, where Latha Mangeshkar or Mohammed Rafi sang more than 36,000 song (Record of SP Bala in 2006) see http://www.hindu.com/2006/08/15/stories/2006081505050400.htm

rgds rakozhi —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rakozhi123 (talk • contribs) 17:59, 18 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't really care which newspapers you believe more, especially considering that you cite oneindia, which is not a reliable source. My ultimate responsibility is to give fair information to Wikipedia and to fight die hard fans. She has been on the Guinness Book for almost two decades. Take The Times of India - an article from 2009 which says she has sung over 50,000 (!). And here you have The Hindu showing you who the ultimate star-singer of India is. And Mohammed Rafi has sung over 40000 songs. An article from 2008!! So SPB is yet to archive this feat. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  18:19, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Dear, Yes here The Hindu news paper says in Lata mangeshkar has figured in the Guinness Book of World Records in 1974. And about Mohammed Rafis - it is very false information, There is email id of the Times of India editor some time I should ask her about this please see this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lata_Mangeshkar#Awards_and_recognitions

Where explicitly written about Mohammed rafi sang 28,000 songs. You can see this link http://specials.rediff.com/movies/2006/aug/23sld7.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rakozhi123 (talk • contribs) 19:01, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

I know you are a big fan of Lata Mangeshkar and Asha Bhosle. See the link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Shshshsh#Music. It is none of my business. I am accepting Lata mangeshkar may sang most number of songs. But in the case of male singer I cannot accept about Mohammed Rafi. It is absolutely SP Balasubramaniam or Yesudas

rgds rakozhi —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rakozhi123 (talk • contribs) 18:54, 18 August 2009 (UTC)


 * So when one source out of the entire net says something about SPB you don't question it and when the most selling daily newspaper supports what actually The Guinness Book says you say "And about Mohammed Rafis - it is very false information, There is email id of the Times of India editor some time I should ask her about this"???? What kind of double-standards are these?
 * No one asks you what YOU accept or not. You make me laugh because I was actually the one who added and edited this article. And it only shows that I am not biased. The Rediff link was important to this article. And so what? The same can be said about anyting in the world. Sources always question different claims. Rediff, which cannot really be a rival to THE GUINNESS BOOK, just cites an opinion which is not widely accpted. It is just that on Wikipedia we have to show all sides possible. But it means nothing really. You're right, my preference is none of your business, as everything I added was done with sources, and it was BTW that way before you yourself removed it back in time, wasn't it? Saying that "the talented Yesudas" who does not enjoy as much popularity as a composer among composers is not not done.
 * And The Hindu is the only source stating Balasubramaniam was featured in Guinness. The book actually never published his name when it actually did publish Mangeshkar's and Rafi's. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  19:20, 18 August 2009 (UTC)


 * This is misleading, the TOI source doesn't say anything about Rafi's record, the person in the subject in TOI source is "Anod Mehra" who has collected 40,000 songs which is sung by various artists (i.e from Rafi to Reshammiya), please read the article again and understand properly. Mohamed Rafi has sung only 28,000 songs -> http://specials.rediff.com/movies/2006/aug/23sld7.htm in 1991, both lataji and rafi's name were removed form guinness book of records and SP Balasubramanyam has sung more than 36,000 songs, this hindu reliable source says The Guinness Book of World Records calls him an artist with the maximum number of recorded songs (over 36,000 songs in many languages and counting), six national awards, a successful innings as a dubbing artiste, actor and composer


 * so, SPB has sung more than Mohmaed Rafi. 59.92.201.239 (talk) 03:25, 19 August 2009 (UTC)


 * In 2008-09, SPB has sung more than 40000 songs. http://www.hindu.com/fr/2008/08/08/stories/2008080850380200.htm http://sify.com/movies/telugu/fullstory.php?id=14874530 59.92.201.239 (talk) 03:53, 19 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Their names were NOT removed. The Guinness edition stopped mentioning this feat completely so don't speculate. As for the 1999 edition, he did not appear in it. Could you please cite a source that he appeared in any addition or a quote from the book and the number of edition? I give you time to cite here sources. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  13:37, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

The sisters Lata Mangeshkar and Asha Bhosle, who have mainly worked in Hindi films, are often referred to as two of the best-known and most prolific playback singers in India.

I removed the content because In Indian film industry, Hindi films are only 21%, reset of 60% from South India. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ef/Indianfilms_bylanguage.PNG The singers Yesudas, S P Balasubramaniam, P Susheela, S Janaki, K S chitra are popular. So if we add the page will be full name of singers —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rakozhi123 (talk • contribs) 07:23, 19 August 2009 (UTC)


 * This is your POV - they are known internationally as such. I have cited sources. And I'll cite more. If you can cite that Chitra's status is above of that of Mangeshkar or Bhosle, we'd talk. Removing sourced information is not done. Lata and Asha, films have been made on them, songs hace been written about them (Brimful of Asha), and it's not my POV. Their achievements are beyong the borders of Hindi cinema. And they have sung in all the languages of Indian cinema. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  08:45, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Removed name of Rafi from the below
According to the book entry, the record by a male singer was held by Mohammed Rafi and S. P. Balasubramanyam, who enjoyed equal popularity among the male playback singers.

This is wrong information.

Both are popular but only SP bala the record holder.

See this link for clarification. http://www.hindu.com/mp/2006/08/07/stories/2006080700620100.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rakozhi123 (talk • contribs) 07:56, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Need to remove this contents
"The sisters Lata Mangeshkar and Asha Bhosle, who have mainly worked in Hindi films, are often referred to as two of the best-known and most prolific playback singers in India."

And the name of Sunidhi Chowhan. She is not popular singer.

And this contents added by a Fan of Lata Mangeshkar, AshaBhosle and Sunidi chowhan

Playback singing is not about playback singing of hindi film industry. If you wish to add like sisters Latamangeshkar and Asha Bhosle, you need to create new article of Bollywood Playback singing. And Definitely lot of other singers are more popular than Asha Bhosle. You are the fan of both Asha and Lata. we can see that by this user page link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Shshshsh#Music So it is not acceptable here. In Bollywood industry Kishore kumar and rafi saheb are more popular than her. So it is not accepted. And same time you added Sunidhi Chowhan ? Who is she ? how many song she sang? how she became popular ? I say please avoid singers name who doesn't sang minimum 1000 songs. In India we have lot of singers.

And you say i will be blocked if I edit it. I say Wikipedia is a database of knowledge and it is not the advertisement of Asha Bhosle and Lata Mangeshkar. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rakozhi123 (talk • contribs) 14:24, 19 August 2009 (UTC)


 * To create an article about Bollywood playback singing? So go and create an article about the South film industry. Everything is properly sourced. I said you would be blocked if you keep edit warring and removing sourced information without reaching consensus. I'm a fan of Lata and Asha, yes. And I'm a fan of Shabana Azmi and Meryl Streep and many others - it never made my edits biased. I add only sourced facts, not POV like you. I cited many sourced for the fact that the two sisters are not only popular in Bollywood, but in India. And they are the most appreciated Indian playback singers in the world. So you have it. As for Asha, don't make me laugh - when a song dedicated to her (Brimful of Asha) will be made on Chithra, we'll talk. Here you have a source.
 * I cite sources. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  14:40, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Dear Shahid,

I said that if you want to describe more about sisters Asha and Lata you just create an article and don't use the article playback singer. It is not a media to advertise them. I don't want to advertise any singer there.

please check this http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ef/Indianfilms_bylanguage.PNG And know that 60% of Indian film industry are from South India.

* In south region lot of popular singers * 1) P Susheela   * 2) S Janaki * 3) Vani Jayaram   * 4) K S Chithra

If consider the talent of above singers, Lata and Asha are nothing. I don't want to add about them on there. They sang very very countable songs in south Indian languages with more mistakes. Only Sadhana sargam sings well comparing to other singers from North region. She is more popular than Asha and Lata in the case of playback singing in entire language.

Because of you are a big fan of Lata and Asha, I cannot change your mind.

rakozhi —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rakozhi123 (talk • contribs) 07:01, 20 August 2009 (UTC)


 * You only add a graph of the 1990s which is nothing. And who made this graph? And who cares who works where? Hindi cinema is the most popular of all the Indian film industries, so what are you trying to prove? And who cares really? Lata and Asha have also worked many a time in the South, and your opinion that they did not do well there is again your POV. I'm adding facts, which are very properly sourced. Lata and Asha are much more veteran, prolific and respected than the singers you have mentioned, and it perfectly verified everywhere. They are actually known to be the most veteran, prolific and respected singers of India in the world. See magazines like Billboard, see the encyclopedia of Indian film music.
 * "If consider the talent of above singers, Lata and Asha are nothing." - it's again your very strong POV, because they will never come close to the stature of Lata and Asha. Most of the singers you mentioned were not even born when Lata and Asha started singing, and the number of films they have sung does not even come close to the quarter of Lata and Asha's number of films. Just see Vani Jayaram's IMDb profile - 92 films!
 * I add sources - perfect sources, and you just express your personal opinions and try to glorify your favourites at the expense of much more regarded artists. If you don't respect Wikipedia, at least respect yourself. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  13:30, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Asha Bhosle and Lata Mangeshkar undoubtedly are the most famous Indian singers in the world. I'm sure there are popular artists today but these two singers are absolute legends in playback singing. What 90% of mainstream films produced between what, late 50s to early 80s? featured either of the sister on playback. There are zillions of sources to support the fact they are amongst India's most popular playback singers. Didn't they notch up over 1500 films between them, surely that is a testimony....If you continue disrupting this article you will be reverted by me, Shahid or somebody else. I am not even Indian and I know that Asha Bhosle and Lata are eminent singers. I am pretty sure one of them holds or held the Guiness worlds record for most films I think. Hahah the BBC is POV!!! PLenty of sources to support claim, hardly POV, what is amusing is that the BBC actually uses the wikipedia article so they obviously agree!!. Dr. Blofeld       White cat 15:41, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

May be this is your invention. It is not important that who is famous to you. You are a friend of Shahid. And You may know about them from him.

This is your user page.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dr._Blofeld

It is very easy to know that you are a friend of Shahid and you came here to support him.

This is shahid's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Shshshsh#Music

He already told he is a fan of Lata and Asha. If you check his editing, you can know that he is advertising them in various article. And one more thing, If like you who don't know about Indian film industry never write anything about it. Rgds Rakozhi —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rakozhi123 (talk • contribs) 07:07, 20 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh well you may say whatever you want and accuse anybody but here you have response which contribures to the consensus. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  10:07, 20 August 2009 (UTC)


 * The most terrible thing he writes here: "please avoid singers name who doesn't sang minimum 1000 songs" !! I'm shocked. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  16:04, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

May I ask you is Sunidhi chowhan a relative of you ?

rakozhi


 * Oh yeh she is actually my sister!! Get serious! Everything is properly sourced, so everything will remain. Chauhan' name is sourced to a Hindu article. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  09:39, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Pakistani Playback Singer Text Editor
I have included names of some great playback singers from Pakistan who are widely respected in subcontinent music industry.I expect this text editor must not remove these great names from playback singer wikipedia.I will highly appreciate that.Thank you very much. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.103.213.59 (talk) 13:55, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

I have included the name of another famous Pakistani playback singer Akhlaq Ahmed, who remained one of the most melodious singers after Ahmed Rushdi.Dr.Mukesh111 (talk) 23:28, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Encyclopaedia of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh
It has been discovered that this book: Contains significant amounts of material plagiarized from Wikipedia articles. (Some other books from the same publisher also have this problem). There is no practical way of determining which material came from Wikipedia, and which came from other sources. Further, widespread plagiarism is an indication of poor scholarship. For those reasons, and according to Wikipedia policy, WP:CIRCULAR, I will deleting all citations to the book. However I will not delete the material that cites it, as there's no indication that the material is inaccurate. For more background, see WP:RSN, or the archive after it goes there.  Will Beback   talk    22:53, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Gupta, Om. Encyclopaedia of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh. Gyan Publishing House, 2006. ISBN 8182053897, 9788182053892.

Removed Names of Pakistani playback singers
I have noticed that names of certain Pakistani playback singers have been removed from this page. What is the reason behind it because Saleem Raza, Akhlaq Ahmed, A Nayyar etc are recognised names??? Wings spread (talk) 19:39, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * You can add it with sources if you want. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  20:32, 1 August 2010 (UTC)


 * All material on Wikipedia should be verifiable using reliable sources. That can be difficult when it comes to popular culture, but it's still the rule. I don't know what kinds of magazines or newspapers might cover this topic, but those would probably be the best sources. Some websites are reliable sources, but most aren't. See WP:V and WP:RS.    Will Beback    talk    23:59, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks..You both have shown concern. I will soon add names of some Urdu Playback singers with sources. Wings spread (talk) 04:17, 2 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for finding sources. However, as I wrote above, most website don't qualify. To begin with, we can't use other Wikipedia articles as references. That includes Wikipedia articles that have been copied elsewhere. It's not obvious to a novice, but a more experienced user would realize that http://mazhar.dk/film/singers/akhlaqahmad.htm is a copy of Akhlaq Ahmed. http://cineplot.com/music/irene-parveen/ appears like it might qualify because of its size and professional presentation. It is part of a set of websites, which gives it a more substantial appearance. A key factor with websites is whether they are a one-person operation or they have a proper corporation and staff. That site is based on Wordpress, which is used by bloggers. It doesn't list any staff, or mention any individual writers. So it's borderline. Since we're not making any unusual assertions based on it, I'd say it's probably sufficient.   Will Beback    talk    21:40, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Protection template
Please change protection template to "pp-vandalism". --Bsherr (talk) 13:54, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:14, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 October 2018
1.) There are grammatical errors in the third and fourth sentences of the first paragraph under the heading South Asia. They currently read:

Popular playback singers in India enjoy the same status as popular actors, and music directors. also receive wide public admiration.

The sentences should be combined, thus:

Popular playback singers in India enjoy the same status as popular actors and music directors, and they also receive wide public admiration.

2.) The third sentence of the second paragraph under the heading South Asia is repetitive. The second sentence already notes that Lata Mangeshkar and Asha Bhosle are sisters.  Why then does the third sentence again note that they are sisters?  The second and third sentences should read as follows, with edits suggested only to the third sentence:

The sisters Lata Mangeshkar and Asha Bhosle, who have mainly worked in Hindi films, are often referred to as two of the best-known and most prolific playback singers in India. In 2011, Guinness officially acknowledged Bhosle as the most recorded artist in music history.

Mattfwood (talk) 04:29, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Danski454 (talk) 19:41, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Removal of files and referenced info/placing maintenance template
Initially there was a file of Mohammad Rafi which was removed due to copy right issues so I uploaded Lata Mangeshkar's file to keep a balance between Indian and Pakistani playback singers i.e one from each country but then for the last many months different socks of blocked sock master Wolf Cola are attacking this page and removing not only the name of Ahmed Rushdi but also files and reliable citations. An SPI clerk has blocked a few out of them but they never rest.

Now Unilexis has placed a maintenance template of POV and neutrality issue which is beyond my perception. They were okay once they remove the files and name of a Pakistani singer but as I restore the changes, they came out with POV. I need to ask them they should justify their editing otherwise I am gonna restore the article to its original state. It is pertinent to remember that this article is semi-pro due to consistent sock puppetry. Moreover, per WP:BRD and WP:BURDEN, once you've been reverted and asked to discuss the proposed change on the talk page, further reverts are usually considered edit warring leaving a few exceptions.-Kishfan (talk) 19:11, 9 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Meanwhile, please provide some kind of policy-based argument for why thetag is needed, or, at a minimum, explain what your concern with the article's sourcing is. Still waiting for your response.-Kishfan (talk) 09:34, 10 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Unilexis is indef as they have proven sock puppet of User:Wolf Cola so I am removing the maintenance tag only placed for disruption.-Kishfan (talk) 23:46, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

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