Talk:Please Hammer Don't Hurt 'Em

All time best seller?
I often hear people make the claim that this is in fact, the best selling rap album of all time. While I certainly don't doubt the claim, I have a hard time finding sales records to cite. I know Chronic by Dr. Dre is also cited as being the all time best seller as well. Does anyone have a clue?Spman (talk) 05:07, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

The article is wrong in this claim and I have edited it out. As for the best selling album, Chronic certainly isn't it. The all time best sellers would be either MMLP or The Eminem Show with both over 20 million discs sold worldwide. I have left the text "one of the best selling albums ever" as it suits the album better. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Koord (talk • contribs) 06:56, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

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Please, Hammer, Don't Hurt 'Em is wrong
Had trouble trying to change article title, due to WIKI internal errors and site problems. The title of the album is Please Hammer, Don't Hurt 'Em (or Please Hammer Don't Hurt 'Em) not Please, Hammer, Don't Hurt 'Em. There are too many commas. See sources to verify this if needed. Please update if I'm not able to before then. Thank you, have a nice day! Contributions/69.129.170.102 (talk) 16:27, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Tried moving page to Please Hammer, Don't Hurt 'Em but can't, can anyone help? I received an internal WIKI error message. It used to be Please Hammer Don't Hurt 'Em or Please Hammer, Don't Hurt 'Em but someone changed it and that edit can not be undone now. Thanks for the assistance in this matter. The article is in fact incorrect due to having too many commas. Jon the editor (talk) 16:51, 15 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Additionally, the image failed and is removed. Will someone please add the album cover back. Not getting that to work either. Thank you, have a great day! Jon the editor (talk) 16:57, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Requested move
move Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:52, 25 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Please, Hammer, Don& → Please Hammer, Don't Hurt 'Em &mdash; see above. Jon the editor (talk) 16:55, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

CHANGE TITLE AGAIN
An editor added an extra comma again. Please remove extra comma per above request and previous article title. As explained in the article, there is an emphasis where the commas are within the song which is mentioned... but it's not apart of the actual title of the album. I appreciate it...Thank you! 69.129.170.102 (talk) 05:45, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

That extra comma

 * One basis for this dispute may be that the sentence "Please Hammer, Don't Hurt 'Em" is in theory ambiguous; the word "hammer" may be treated as a noun vocative ("I am pleading with the hammer for it not to hurt them.") or as a verb imperative ("Please use the hammer(s), [and/but] do not hurt those people."; and that presence or absense of the disputed extra comma may make one or other of these two parsings more or less likely. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:24, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I get that, but it's how it was sold/marketed, whether it's wrong or right. IE. If I name/sell an album called ITS CONFEWTION but someone says it should be IT'S CONFUSION, they'd be wrong. The artist has actually used no commas on the album, but the way it's been listed when sold is with one comma... Right, wrong or indifferent, two commas are by no means the correct way the album should be listed. Thanks! P.S. Please Hammer (break/pause/comma,) Don't Hurt 'Em also works. It's explained in article. 69.129.170.102 (talk) 08:20, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 'Pleading with the hammer for it not to hurt them'? 'Please use the hammer(s)'? What are you talking about? 'Hammer' is the guy's name: MC Hammer! There's no actual hammer involved in any way! 94.192.115.70 (talk) 15:34, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
 * But this is all about Hammer. Also, it could be used as a proper noun, as a name, and still imply the same as the first suggestion and, if I may be so bold, I will quote from the above passage here, "I am pleading with the hammer for it not to hurt them", however, for the useage of a proper noun, perhaps should read along the lines of "I am pleading with the Hammer not to hurt them", as 'the Hammer' was another moniker that Mr. Burrell (MC Hammer) was known by, so, thusly, User:Anthony Appleyard is correct in his statement regarding the usage of the style of writing in his first example, although I would contend that, as you have pointed out, the stage name of Mr. Burrell is, indeed, (MC) Hammer, and so thusly, it should be treated as a proper noun, and not as a verb, as 'to hammer'. CybergothiChé word to your mother  —Preceding undated comment added 09:26, 30 October 2010 (UTC).

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Requested move 8 August 2019

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The result of the move request was: Move. No objections in 7 days. Cúchullain t/ c 14:53, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Please Hammer, Don't Hurt 'Em → Please Hammer Don't Hurt 'Em – According to iTunes as well as on the LP record & CD releases of the album, the album's name is officually written without the comma after "Hammer". MindsEyeTHPS (talk) 20:37, 8 August 2019 (UTC)


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First single was "Help the Children"; "U Can't Touch This" was third single.
The current article shows "U Can't Touch This" as the first single and says it was released Jan 12, 1990. The "U Can't Touch This" article has the same release date. This is wrong.

Billboard magazine February 3, 1990, page 88: 'Capitol's follow -up to Hammer's platinum debut, will be in stores Feb. 12. The first single, released Jan. 10, is "Help The Children". A likely follow-up will be Hammer's cover of the Jacksons' 1974 hit, "Dancing Machine".' That was the old Jackson 5 song. No mention yet of "U Can't Touch This". "Help The Children" had already appeared on the Hot Black Singles chart the week before, and eventually got to #12. It never made the Hot 100.

The "Dancin' Machine" single (Capitol 15542) was reviewed in the Feb. 10 issue. It didn't make the Pop or Black Singles charts. It made the Rap Singles chart March 10, and only got to #24.

There was a full page ad for the album in the Feb. 24 issue. "Help The Children" and "Dancin' Machine" were emphasized. "U Can't Touch This" wasn't mentioned.

The March 10 issue is when the album first hit the Top Pop Albums chart. Billboard reviewed the album, again without mentioning "U Can't Touch This". However, this issue also shows radio stations in Houston and San Diego were now playing the song.

In March 24 issue, Billboard said: ' "U Can't Touch This" by M.C. Hammer (Capitol) is among the 10 most-added songs at top 40 radio and would have entered the [Hot 100] chart in the 70s, but it is an album cut. ... The cut will not be a single until May, so look for a high debut when it is finally available. '

Finally in the April 28 issue: 'M.C. Hammer's "U Can't Touch This" is the top new entry on the Hot 100 at a sizzling No. 27, ahead of new singles by Phil Collins and Richard Marx. ... M.C. Hammer's hit is the highest-debuting single since USA For Africa's "We Are The World" blasted onto the Hot 100 at No. 21 five years ago. ... The song has been in the top 30 on the pop airplay chart for the past three weeks, but it was only last week released as a commercial 12 -inch single.'

I'm not very good at editing Wikipedia articles, but I'll see what I can do. PatConolly (talk) 00:54, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Can't touch this 107.122.229.18 (talk) 22:36, 16 December 2023 (UTC)