Talk:Plyometrics

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Etymology
This article is garbage I still don't know what Plyometrics means. Back to google. Samantha — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.168.26.210 (talk) 22:14, 25 March 2012 (UTC)


 * You could try reading the article: 'For details and illustrations of these exercises see “Explosive Running”[9] and “Explosive Plyometrics”.[3] These exercises involve the stretch-shorten concept that underlies the shock method.' Jarrod Walkabout (talk) 15:18, 8 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Plio is not the Greek "word" but the combining form for "more". The "word" is m./f. πλείων, n. πλεῖον, "more". There is no such Greek verb as πλύθειν or πλυθεῖν (pluthein). Plio- derives from the Rus. плиометрический, in which the и /i/ is a transliteration of Anc. Gk. ει, pronounced in MGk. /i/. In Eng., Gk.-derived ei (as in Poseidon) is pronounced /aɪ/, like Eng. y, which seems to be influenced by ply, bend, which itself derives from L. plicāre, to bend or fold. See OED, plyometrics. Tomkyd1964 (talk) 18:18, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

University of Oregon
Don't know if this will help but the University of Oregon is known for using plyometrics. Their trainer Jim Radcliffe has been with them for 26 years. "Many of Radcliffe’s exercises stem from a type of training called plyometrics. Radcliffe wrote two books about the subject and is cited in various medical journals for his approach to developing the human body. Because he had Oregon using plyometric techniques before they became popular, Oregon is considered one of the most innovative schools for athletic training." http://journalism.uoregon.edu/~russial/cyberj/theartof/pages/may/may1.html Cfeedback (talk) 15:56, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Duplication
The intro and history sections are very similar. I think someone needs to do a bit of a cull. I'm not familiar with the subject matter so I don't feel qualified to do it. Head-it-behind (talk) 06:48, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

EMG
What is EMG? What is EMG value? It is nowhere explained in the article. Qualifies to garbage really. --Mloskot (talk) 00:44, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Is this a suitable external link?
www.verkhoshansky.com ?? I'm surprised that the Professor does not have a wikipedia page of his own as yet. Jarrod Walkabout (talk) 15:04, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Should 'depth-jump' have its' own page?
Seems to be the main plyometric excercise. Jarrod Walkabout (talk) 15:12, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Who is Chu (1998)?
"Chu (1998) recommends that a participant be able to perform 50 repetitions of the squat exercise at 60% of his bodyweight before doing plyometrics. Core body (trunk) strength is also important." Missing reference link. Jarrod Walkabout (talk) 15:26, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
 * He's listed in the references.
 * Chu, Donald (1998). Jumping into plyometrics (2nd ed. ed.). Champaign, IL: Human Kinetics. pp. 1–4. ISBN 0880118466.
 * Somebody should cite it properly... (I haven't read it, so I don't know which page to refer.)
 * --Indopap (talk) 14:41, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Exercises - (some bad examples?)
Under the Exercises section there are some bad examples of plyometric exercises.

I know that Box Jumps is commonly thought to be a plyometric exercise despite not actually being one.

This article from T-Nation (which isn't the most reputable site, but I'd say its a lot more reputable than The Art of Manliness which is used on this page) says:

''"A standing broad jump or jump onto a high box are power exercises; they are not plyometric exercises.

''A true plyometric exercise must contain a very fast loading phase and minimize the length of the amortization phase. The shorter the amortization phase, the greater the plyometric training effect.''

''So, the plyometric version of a box jump would be to either first jump off of a small box or take a small jump into the air and then, upon landing, minimize your ground contact time and immediately explode onto the high box.  The less ground contact time you have between jumps, the greater the stretch reflex you create, therefore the greater plyometric effect."

I think that someone with some good references should really look over the Exercise section because some of the ones listed are definitely not plyometric exercises.
 * Considering that fact that someone had the resources to write 11 paragraphs under Method, you'd think they'd be able to cite some exercise examples. Kortoso (talk) 18:45, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

Upper body exercises
The plyo moves listed here are so far primarily lower-body exercises. However, plyometrics also includes upper-body exercises such as ball tosses. Chu's book does describe these if I recall correctly.

Some resources:
 * http://www.performbetter.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/PBOnePieceView?storeId=10151&catalogId=10751&pagename=159
 * http://www.brianmac.co.uk/plymo.htm
 * http://www.performbetter.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/PBOnePieceView?storeId=10151&catalogId=10751&pagename=58
 * Kortoso (talk) 18:37, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

Safety Considerations
"Age - should be taken into account for both pre-pubescent and the elderly because of hormonal changes." this line needs expanded and referenced to be of any use. 141.228.106.147 (talk) 13:07, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Too long?
This whole article seems too long. It is more like a guide, rather than a summary. Anyone agree? MCG 06:34, 26 March 2023 (UTC)