Talk:PoPoLoCrois (PSP)

Neutrality
I feel this article is not written from a neutral point of view, so I've tagged it. --Muna 23:48, 22 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I think the article is substantially different from what it was 1 1/2 years ago. Can we take the tag now now? (not sure how neutrality would be an issue with a video game).  --Kraftlos (talk) 08:59, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Man, this was a long time ago, I can't even remember the fault I found with it. Looking through, the following strike me as needing to be fixed:

''The battles, however, are slightly more interesting. While random and turn-based, they take on a form very similar to the Final Fantasy Tactics ones, though not as deep.'' "Interesting" and "deep" sound like the opinion of the writer. A rewrite and a citation would be good here.

The third paragraph of the Gameplay section could also do with citations, especially since it details errors in a way which appears cruft-like.

The Plot section seems fine, but this looks like it could do with something to back up its claim: "Popolocrois Monogatari II" was the most famous game of the series, due to the darkened story, new party members, and many other features.

Overall though, the article seems a whole lot better than it was, so I've removed the tag. :) --Muna (talk) 18:15, 17 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I really think that there needs to be one Popolocrois article that encompasses the anime and all the games, it can't be just about the PSP port. However I don't have a lot of information or time right now... -_-  --Kraftlos (talk) 11:26, 25 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Perhaps you could create PoPoLoCrois (series) for this purpose? :) --Muna (talk) 01:00, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * That would be correct, but also per the naming conventions platform-specific remakes need to include the name of the platform in the title, like PoPoLoCrois (PSP) --Kraftlos (talk) 07:47, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Wikified
Wikified as part of the Wikification wikiproject! Shifted some things around, added more sections, etc. This article should be split so that the anime and game have their own pages. JubalHarshaw 17:52, 12 October 2006 (UTC)


 * This just looks like a list, and it lumps all five games into one article and completely ignores the two anime series. This looks like someone's review of the game for the PSP and not an encyclopedia article.  It is a significant series though and deserves some research.  --Kraftlos (talk) 04:33, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

I like the addition of the link to the anime article, I wasn't aware of the article's existence. I would like to propose that we do more to distinguish the PSP game (which is a compliation) from the original Japanese releases. Here is a [| link] to the translated verion of the japanese page. Just to give an idea of what I mean... --Kraftlos (talk) 09:25, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Comments from top
(never used this feature before ^^;;) Later on, the second series came when the 4th Popolo game came out. But lots have said the second anime series was actually better than the game it self, The anime series showed the story of the 5th Popolo game when it reached episode 14.

I hope you don't mind me commenting, but the bit that says the the game's a spin-off of the anime is incorrect. The anime was in fact spun off of the game, being made in 1998.

The article also seems to imply that the PSP version's a straight port of the original Playstation game, which isn't strictly true. The PSP game contains parts of the first and second games (but not all of either), along with a new section made for it (presumably to tempt those who already had the originals into buying). FloweretteFan 17:49, 26 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Reorganized the page.  Was about to complain that you put new stuff at the top, but then I realized that I did it too >.>  I don't know a lot about the history of the series, I just started working on the page so I could learn more.  The Japanese page is really nice, but my Japanese is really bad. --Kraftlos (talk) 08:46, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Split
I've already started doing this with the characters page, but think we should either move this page to Popolocrois (PSP) and use this as a page about the whole series (or create a Popolocrois (Series)). The tag says to create a disambiguation page, but I don't think we need to go that far. (gonna go post on the anime page while I'm at it.) --Kraftlos (talk) 09:19, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I take this back, I made this request before I understood a lot of the policies on Wikipedia. --Kraftlos (talk) 21:47, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Release date and platform
Please list which platform is associated with each release date as is done for the PSP version. The infobox is currently very confusing. SharkD (talk) 01:13, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Merge
We have two start articles about Popolocrois with no mention of the work as a whole. I propose we combine the strengths of both articles to create one solid article (hopefully finding more information about the Japanese iterations of the game as well) --Kraftlos (talk) 21:46, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, after re-reading the talkpage here, I think it would be more appropriate to move this page to PoPoLoCrois (PSP) and create a series page under this name. I would first like to put together at least a short stub before making such a merge, so for the time being I'm taking down the merge tags.  --Kraftlos (Talk | Contrib) 06:58, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Silent merge
While I don't think the merge made the page worse, I'm a bit peeved by the fact that merged the character list in without any discussion. I split it off for a reason (using the proper procedure). I'm proposing merging the anime page into this article and making a Popolocrois series article, however both pages have character lists which overlap. The page would be unwieldy with both lists merged in here, however it would be in perfectly in keeping with consensus on other article. As established here, I know you are operating under your own rules. I'm going to restore the pages to where they were before and if you would like to discuss a merge, we can have that discussion. Wikipedia does have Ignore all rules, but it also says to Use common sense and I think it's common sense to discuss major changes to an article's layout with involved editors when you haven't been involved with the development of the article. (and no, I don't own it) --Kraftlos (Talk | Contrib) 06:41, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Explanation of moves and changes to pages
So I originally proposed this last march, but I'm finally going to do it. This article only discusses the PSP compilation of PoPoLoCrois, so I am going to rename this article to more appropriately represent the idea that this is a PSP compilation, then prepare a brief translation of the Japanese wikipedia article on the series so we can have something to work off of. That way, the PoPoLoCrois article will be about PoPoLoCrois and not just a specific PSP remake. -- Kraftlos  (Talk | Contrib) 10:19, 29 December 2008 (UTC)