Talk:Poe Dameron

The gay thing
Since two IPs have tried to remove this information from the article so far, I'm commenting here. The idea that Poe could/should be gay is a topic that has come up, with journalists of reliable publications reporting on fan reaction (posts, fan fiction, fan art), as well as the commentary of the journalists themselves. This makes it notable, as notable as the journalistic reactions to the film's diverse casting. Yes, many fictional characters have fan shippers or whatever, but the media isn't reporting about them.&mdash; TAnthonyTalk 17:25, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
 * So, no offense to the IP editor, but I can't rely on your grasp on Wikipedia conventions. This is something that reliable sources are reporting on, no one is saying the character is gay, but the media has reported on the reaction of critics and fans. It's relevant to the article, if you like it or not. &mdash; TAnthonyTalk 03:17, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but it's completely unsubstantiated not to mention unnecessary. Fanfiction shipping IS NOT "journalistic debate".  It needs to be removed. --24.254.132.169 (talk) 18:50, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Vanity Fair, MTV News, Moviepilot and other sources have specifically mentioned/reported on the shipping and fan buzz, Hypable actually argued that the character could be gay, I'm not sure how you are seeing this as any less notable than critical reactions to Isaac's casting or performance. If there was other coverage in reliable sources about other fan pairings, certainly this would be less notable. But for a week there, a lot of people were talking about this little blip, and that's what notable means.— TAnthonyTalk 19:49, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Random guest editorials don't count as reports. Good god people.  It's fanfiction shipping, and I'm removing it unless there are SUBSTANTIAL sources arguing otherwise.  I mean, hell, it's even DESCRIBED as such on the Vanity article.  So, I'm removing it unless something substantial comes of it.  Like OFFICIAL sources, for example. --24.254.132.169 (talk) 21:52, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Again, no one is saying the characters are gay, the notable information is that reliable sources are reporting on the fan reaction. I think it's worded very clearly and fairly to represent what the sources are saying.— TAnthonyTalk 22:01, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I see. Now Wikipedia catalogs fanfiction?  Because....no.  It doesn't.  --24.254.132.169 (talk) 19:28, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

If several reliable sources say "a lot of fans dress up as Princess Leia", it's notable and we reference it in an article. If several reliable sources say, "a lot of people are naming their daughters 'Arya' after the Game of Thrones character", it's notable and we put it in an article. This is the same thing, a standout fan reaction to pop culture of some kind that has been noticed by the media. I know there is all kinds of shipper fan fiction and art about various superheroes and LOTR and GoT and what have you, and yet I haven't seen USA Today or Vanity Fair commenting on it. I know you think it's stupid but I can't understand how you don't see the notability.— TAnthonyTalk 20:59, 20 February 2016 (UTC)


 * And by the way, your removal of this content has now been reverted by two other editors beside myself, I think you should get the hint.— TAnthonyTalk 21:01, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

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