Talk:Poinsettia

Substantial revisions incoming
Hello watchers, I'm in the holiday spirit from the Tree of Life Holiday Contest and have chosen to improve this very popular article. Ultimately I hope to bring this to GA standards. Any help or feedback is welcome, but mostly just wanted to provide some background detail. Cheers, Enwebb (talk) 20:03, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

source?
"Many of these poinsettias are grown by Paul Ecke Ranch, which serves half the worldwide market and 70% of the US market."

Is there a source for this claim? Other than the Paul Ecke Ranch? 2001:1BA8:14C2:E700:F99F:65ED:6E5F:8DC2 (talk) 21:30, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

Moving alternative names to foreground
Hi y'all,

Given that the problematic history behind the origin of the name "poinsettia," I wanted to start a conversation here about the possibility of moving some of the alternative names like "flor de nochebuena" and "cuetlaxochitl" to the introduction as alternative names in italics. I didn't want to make this change on my own out of pocket in case there are folks who would be against the idea. Would be curious what everyone else thinks. Thanks!

- yujie.ho123 Yujie.ho123 (talk) 20:46, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

Cuetlaxochitl is the just the Nahuatl name
Cuetlaxochitl is the just the Nahuatl name, other Indigenous peoples called it other things. The Maya called it k'alul wits, for instance. TuckerResearch (talk) 15:24, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Unsubstantiated history
There seems to be some misinformation on this article. (Here's the video that brought this to my attention, for those curious.) I'm not much of a qualified Wikipedia editor, so I'll leave these changes to someone else. 2001:569:777B:1200:5945:C41:69A1:5CED (talk) 05:59, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
 * While the plant was certainly named after Joel Poinsett, it's uncertain whether he was the one who introduced it to the US, and there's no evidence that it was first sent to South Carolina.
 * There are very few Mexican resources on the supposed 16th century legend of Pepita, where the plant's association with Christmas is said to have originated. (The Spanish version of this article, for example, doesn't seem to mention it.) The story's earliest recorded variant is from 1964 (The Book of Festival Holidays), and the child was first named Pepita in 1997 (Poinsettias: Myth & Legend). This article states that poinsettias were first associated with Christmas by Franciscan priests in the 17th century.


 * Hi IP, the sentences related to Joel Poinsett introducing the plant to the US are supported by a citation to this publication by the International Society for Horticultural Science. This is considered a reliable source, so it meets the standards of Wikipedia. To change or remove this information, other reliable sources would need to dispute it, and that YouTube video is not a reliable source. Anyone can make a video and publish it on YouTube, unlike getting a paper published by the International Society for Horticultural Science.
 * I removed the part about Pepita, as the sources I clicked through did not actually support the content as claimed. Enwebb (talk) 19:40, 7 March 2024 (UTC)