Talk:Point Blanc

Merging Vote
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Yes
 * 1) I suggest we merge this article under the name of Point Blanc. Weirdy 07:15, 20 June 2006 (UTC).
 * 2) Yes vote from me. The two articles should be merged. Britishagent 07:50, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
 * 3) YES. I'm in full favor of merging any articles that are related as closely as these two are. YESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESY...  Po we rf ul mi nd  please talk to me ! look at all of my edits ! 20:26, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

No
 * 1) I see no relation other than name. If there is an article about the fictional porject then merge those two. But not the one about the real Project Gemini. Po we rf ul mi nd  please talk to me ! look at <sup style="color:#0000FF;">all <sub style="color:#FFFF00;">of <sup style="color:#FF00FF;">my <sub style="color:#00FFFF;">edits ! 20:28, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Vote set up by: Weirdy 07:15, 20 June 2006 (UTC).

Merge what two articles? I only see one, and it's called Point Blanc. Please explain. Po we rf ul mi nd <sup style="color:#ABCDEF;">please <sub style="color:#FEDCBA;">talk <sup style="color:#DEFABC;">to <sub style="color:#CBAFED;">me ! <sup style="color:#FF0000;">look <sub style="color:#00FF00;">at <sup style="color:#0000FF;">all <sub style="color:#FFFF00;">of <sup style="color:#FF00FF;">my <sub style="color:#00FFFF;">edits ! 23:19, 4 June 2007 (UTC)


 * The other article in question was Project Gemini. hbdragon88 05:00, 5 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Oh. In that case, yes. (See above) Po we rf ul mi nd  <sup style="color:#ABCDEF;">please <sub style="color:#FEDCBA;">talk <sup style="color:#DEFABC;">to <sub style="color:#CBAFED;">me ! <sup style="color:#FF0000;">look <sub style="color:#00FF00;">at <sup style="color:#0000FF;">all <sub style="color:#FFFF00;">of <sup style="color:#FF00FF;">my <sub style="color:#00FFFF;">edits ! 20:26, 5 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I just looked at the article you pointed me to, and I disagree. NO relation other than the name. Po we rf ul mi nd  <sup style="color:#ABCDEF;">please <sub style="color:#FEDCBA;">talk <sup style="color:#DEFABC;">to <sub style="color:#CBAFED;">me ! <sup style="color:#FF0000;">look <sub style="color:#00FF00;">at <sup style="color:#0000FF;">all <sub style="color:#FFFF00;">of <sup style="color:#FF00FF;">my <sub style="color:#00FFFF;">edits ! 20:28, 5 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Sorry. It was Gemini Project. hbdragon88 22:03, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Specifically, it was the content from this revision. The article has since been redirected to the real-life NASA project.  And it's been nearly a year anyway; the merger already happened. hbdragon88 00:43, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Point Blan c K c
I have this book and the cover says Point Blank and not Point Blanc. -- Danny  Phantom   [ Phantom... ] 00:48, 11 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Read the intro: Point Blanc is the second book in the Alex Rider series written by British author Anthony Horowitz. The book was released in the UK on September 3, 2001 and in the United States (renamed as Point Blank) on April 15, 2002. hbdragon88 03:02, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Film?
Isn't there supposed to be a film coming out soon? Although the only record I can find of this is on IMDB which will not display any details as it is still being classed as 'in developement'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.243.54.131 (talk) 20:07, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

I heard somewhere that Anthony Horowitz has written a script, but it is unlikely a sequel will be made. The first film did pretty bad at the box office --Spongefrog (talk) 16:11, 9 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I read an interview, somewhere on the internet, and he stated that he was at the moment writing the script, apparently he has written a few but got rid of them since he didn't think that they were going to make another one but then they approached him, so he had to make another script. I may have read it in a book or somewhere, I'm not too sure! Jonni_Boi (Talk) 17:44, 14 August 2009 (UTC)


 * If you find that interview, feel free to add it (obviously). I just removed a mention of a film. The reference was from a forum, and the forum-er had gotten this information from a Wikipedia article, Stormbreaker (film). Lord Spongefrog,  (I am a flesh-eating robot)  17:04, 4 September 2009 (UTC)


 * I Looked over the internet for the interview but no such luck, I do, however, recall where I heard the interview from and that was on TV! So doubt I'll find anything on the internet, sorry, I've looked Jonni_Boi (Talk) 18:24, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Who Survived?
At the end of the book, it is stated that one Alex Rider left the fight alive- but it dosen't say which one. Couldn't this article mention that its possible that only the clone Alex survived?AYoungMan68 (talk) 13:36, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

No, because remember the clone was a clone of Grief, not Alex, and had a different personality from Alex. He only resembled Alex. Because Alex appears in later books and has the same characteristics, it rules out this possibility. I think it was supposed to suggest that possibility though.--Username (talk) 13:41, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Thats true, but remember that the clones were trained by Grief to be exact replicas of the originals physically and psychologically. Its possible that this is the clone simply living Alex's life, waiting for the chance to avenge his "father". AYoungMan68 (talk) 01:53, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

At the end of point blanc it mentions the replica hadn't quite got the accent right, and still had some mannerisms of Grief. However I think it is still worth a mention somewhere in the plot like 'leaving it unclear to who survived' or similar. I would act on this but I'm running out of battery. It might get reverted.--Username (talk) 11:40, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I've got some more reasons. Alex knew karate, was an experienced diver, and had a few languages, which are demonstrated in the later novels. It is unlikely the clone would have these skills (Grief didn't know of Alex's real identity, or his skills, until later in the novel, and couldn't teach his clone them). Plus, it is more likely Alex would win in a fight between him and a Grief clone.--Username (talk) 11:57, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

True, but it is mentioned that the clone had been observing Alex for a while- looking at his mannerisms, his life in general- plus it is possible that Greif taught it these skills anyways, since he was bent on world domination, so he would want his clones to be powerful. AYoungMan68 (talk) 04:45, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi again. The possibility that the clone survived is unlikely, but still a valid point. I made the plot mention it slightly "(presumably the clone)", but if you really feel it needs more coverage, go ahead. It may be reverted, eventually, if its too severe, but I won't do anything. It's not that important, so if we keep arguing we might be added to WP:LEW.

Bye. Spongefrog (talk) 20:16, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Great. Thx69.92.50.50 (talk) 04:10, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome. Spongefrog, (I am a flesh-eating robot)  17:46, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Just to lay this to rest, the clone resurfaces in Scorpia Rising where he escapes from the secret prison he has been in presumably since the end of Point Blanc. Robina Fox (talk) 01:35, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Humorous Phrasing
'' The next day, when Alex and Fiona are out horse riding, Fiona falls off her horse in the middle of a railway tunnel. Alex goes back in on his horse and just about manages to retrieve Fiona and jump off a bridge into a river before they are run over by a high speed train.'' Either he did manage to save Fiona, and they are both alive, or he didn't, and at least one of them got hit by a train. Presumably he succeeded, in which case this is not the phrasing needed. 65.60.208.5 (talk) 23:59, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Editing Title
Should we change this title to Point Blanc (Novel)? Because most book articles I've seen have it. Football1607 (talk) 11:35, 28 March 2015 (UTC)


 * I don't think so. WP:PRIMARYTOPIC is broadly applicable.  Many novels have films (or other topics) associated with them, so there may be multiple uses of the same term - Harry Potter and Star Wars, for example - but in this case there is no other use of the term "Point Blanc" so it's not necessary.  Chaheel Riens (talk) 13:30, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Assessment comment
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