Talk:Point of sale/Archives/2012

SPAM
I've just removed a bit of spam from the modern epos section. Some of them were disguised into terms that people would click to find out more info on those terms. Could someone check the rest of the page for more spam? Thanks! Somecrowd (talk) 20:23, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

The first?
"the Atari ST, the w hey old's first consumer-level color graphic computer."

Not the first by many years. There were many 'color graphic' small computers prior to the Atari ST, from Atari and many other companies.


 * Technically the first Point of sale systems were simple registers accompanied by calculators and computers. Some of the very first computers were used for the purpose of sales accounting. Piercetp 07:58, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

POS Display
I understand that the the display pictured is actually a "POS display" but does this actually deserve such a prominent position, the rest of the article focuses on computer POS systems, and the big picture is rather misleading (a picture of a typical modern POS touchscreen system would be far more appropriate), I think the picture should be removed, or at least moved further down the page talked about in a separate section. If no one objects I will do this soon.--MaxMahem 19:32, 2 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Personally, the information about point of sale displays doesn't belong in this article at all. That would best fit in an article called Point of sale display.  That way, this article can cover point of sale technology exclusively.  SchuminWeb (Talk) 20:02, 2 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Agree good move. Same name but very different. -- Stbalbach 16:14, 23 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm just glad that Bilky asko enlarged the section. With that done, it became substantial enough to stand on its own without having to be labeled a stub.  SchuminWeb (Talk) 16:16, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Checkstand
Please do not revert the edit to say Checkstand is what people people in the UK say, it's incorrect. (and since I live here, I should know.) Bilky asko 13:14, 23 August 2006 (UTC)


 * The article lists "checkstand" as a U.S. term, but I've honestly never heard that term used by anyone, and I've lived here my whole life. On the other hand, "checkout" is listed as a U.K. term, but it's used here very frequently. I'm not sure where "checkstand" is used as a common term, but it's definitely not used here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.51.129.252 (talk • contribs)


 * I strongly disagree with the above. "Checkstand" is FREQUENTLY used in the US, but not by consumers. When buying we talk of getting on the checkout line but when retail employees announce that they need a price check or a void they always say it's "needed on checkstand three" (or what-have-you). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.137.144.137 (talk) 05:59, 23 March 2007 (UTC).


 * Agreed regarding "checkstand" being used by retailers vs. customers. We often talked to customers about problems with "checkstand" design and construction.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.33.49.251 (talk) 19:56, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Early POS Software
"'In 1995, JDA Software, Inc. began development on the first widely deployed Windows-based POS system, Win/DSS(tm) - Windows Distributed Store Systems. After over 10 years in the marketplace, with installs in over 60 countries and over 125,000+ registers, Win/DSS(tm) has become the de facto standard in Point Of Sale technology. It has been estimated that there are over 2 million Win/DSS(tm) users (cashiers, supervisors, etc.) world wide.'"

The above paragraph, despite mentioning a commercially available product, is historically significant when discussing POS software. Win/DSS(tm) does represent the most widely installed POS software in the market. If you're going to edit this and remove it, I suggest going to the Microsoft Wikipedia entry and removing all references to "Word" and "Excel" as well. The fact remains that there are literally millions of users across almost every country where a free market retail society exists. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.40.94.131 (talk • contribs)


 * Can you give us some reliable sources with that information? /Blaxthos 05:50, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Separate article for restaurant industry
I am considering adding a seperate article pertaining to restaraunt industry. I was wondering what everyone thinks here. Piercetp 08:04, 22 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't see how it's necessary. Timneu22 12:04, 22 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Hospitality POS systems differ substantially from retail POS systems. I support the initiative, and will be glad to help.  My only concerns are that we ensure neutrality and stick to reliable sources (which maybe hard to come by).  I know there is an article about MICROS, and I personally authored the article about Squirrel Systems.  Both of those, however, are about the companies, not their respective POS systems specifically.  /Blaxthos 17:32, 22 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Blaxthos, what you say is correct. I also agree that it may be a problem finding product-neutral sources on the subject. The reason for this being that every product manufacturer puts out their own liturature on the subject. I would add that I myself am admittedly biased due to my employment with Panasonic. However if someone is willing to research and check for neutrality than I can at least start the topic.


 * I was wondering what would be a good topic for such an article? Perhaps "Restaraunt point of sales systems" or "Hospitality point of sale systems?" Piercetp 19:48, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

OK then did it. Here is the article.... Hospitality point of sale systems. Please feel free to edit, troubleshoot or reference this article as you see fit. Piercetp 20:01, 22 September 2007 (UTC) - I am looking for information and places to learn more about POS T. So I am thinking to start small business in Mexico City. Did you know in Mexico City 90% of companies are small?. Please let me know mre about it  to    edch3g3@gmail.com Thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.111.162.109 (talk) 08:34, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Point of Sale Technology
What would be nice to feature is the point of sale technology Wal-Mart uses. I do not know the entire process, but when the transaction occurs at a cash register in a store, say Federal Way, Washington, USA, the sale of that product is sent back to the manufacture or distributer for them to manufacture another item to replace the one sold and then shipped to the store to restock the merchandise shelf. I do not know the turnaround or how the manufactures feel about this system as some have to retool their machines to make certain parts for different products. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Countrydave (talk • contribs) 21:25, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Marketing concepts missing
Isn't PoS a highly important marketing issue and shouldn't there be some info about that?--Cancun771 (talk) 15:44, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Missing aspects
The article is missing many aspects of a checkout, only talking about the cash register machine, really. What about, for example, the different designs in the conveyor belts in different countries, etc.? HJV (talk) 22:22, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

POS terminal --> redirects to this page
I have redirected POS terminal to this page, as all the data from POS terminal was taken from POS anyway... Blender09 (talk) 15:55, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Restaurant POS
What is the purpose of Restaurant POS? Can someone redirect that here? Timneu22 (talk) 16:49, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * looks like a duplicate. thanks for that. the retailing section relaly needs some work... WAYY oto many duplicates! Bearsharexx (talk) 20:05, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

No mention of EFTPOS anywhere
Didn't Australia contribute to the point of sale system? I mean, they did have EFTPOS, but is it developed by any companies mention in this article? And the only mention is right at the "See Also" section. Joe9320 of the CUWP |  Contact the Council  03:52, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

The Awards industry
At the end of the article there's a section with no sources about the Awards Industry POS. It's not clear what the awards industry actually is, or why it deserves a section? 82.35.238.239 (talk) 16:08, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Plural
Is it surely not points of sale and not point of sales? Maxí (talk) 15:27, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm more used to "point of sale" (which happily coincides with the article title), but I suppose "point of sales" means a place where lots of sales occur. However, if you are suggesting that all the "point of sales" should be changed to "point of sale", I would agree. Johnuniq (talk) 23:00, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

redirect from POP / Point of Purchase
I arrived to this page via a redirect from Point of Purchase, but, as far as I can tell, there's nothing on the page about POP. Can anyone add anything? Otherwise, I'll get rid of the redirect. Emika22 (talk) 11:46, 2 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Is it not just similar? Point of Sale/Purchase?  --Dirk Beetstra T  C 12:05, 2 August 2010 (UTC)


 * I kinda assumed that it was the same, but I'm not sure - actually, that's why I was trying to look it up on wikipedia in the first place :) If they are the same, (maybe someone with knowledge of the topic can confirm it) then it would be simple enough to add POP as an alternative name in the lead. Emika22 (talk) 15:16, 2 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Having looked at a few different definitions, I am fairly sure this is means the same. The difference just being that the Point-of-Purchase is from the customers rather than a retailers perspective.  I have altered the lead to add the alternative term. Sargdub (talk) 20:59, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Accounting software
Under Retail industry, the article mentions: "Many retail POS systems include an accounting interface that “feeds” sales and cost of goods information to independent accounting applications." I haven't heard of any POS system that does that, nor an accounting system that uses that. Can anyone point to a resource that shows this is true? TheConfigurator (talk) 17:42, 17 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Wow, I haven't heard of a system that doesn't do this. I don't know how one could cite this. &mdash; Timneu22 · &#32; talk 23:31, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Possibly TheConfigurator is suggesting that the POS does not feed data directly into a package sitting on some accountant's desk. Instead (I'm guessing here), the POS sends its data to some system that would perform sanity checks and update a database. The accounting application would access the database. Johnuniq (talk) 00:59, 18 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Almost every PoS software contains the ability to interface with inventory, accounting, and recipe software. Some have API's, some just do CSV's, and some have it all self-contained in a single software package.  I don't think this is a contentious point, and I'm not sure how we could prove a negative.  :)  //Blaxthos ( t / c ) 20:46, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

3651 and 3661 controllers were not mainframes
"In August 1973 IBM announced the IBM 3650 and 3660 Store Systems that were, in essence, a mainframe computer packaged as a store controller that could control 128 IBM 3653/3663 point of sale registers."

The 3650 and 3660 systems used the UC.5 (Universal Controller) and in no stretch of the imagination could you call them mainframes. I'm not sure what wording you would want to use instead, but "mainframe" isn't it. The two models of 3651 controllers had 64K or 128K of memory (if 128K, 64K was used only for code and 64K was used only for data), and either a 5 megabyte or 10 megabyte hard drive called a Gulliver. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.33.49.251 (talk) 19:53, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Cloud-based POS
The history seems to have stopped in the 1990s. Post-millennium POS systems are now cloud-based. Examples are Vend, POSterita, and Imonggo. I wish to add this information. Mvching (talk) 09:09, 12 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Go for it. You don't need permission. --Kvng (talk) 00:21, 17 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I learned something new. Mvching (talk) 21:27, 18 June 2012 (UTC)