Talk:Pointer (dog breed)/Archive 1

History
Does anyone have a citation for the claim that the pointer came from the breeds listed?--Counsel 21:41, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Elhew
The inclusion of the Elhew pointer makes sense. For there to be no information on the Elhew Poiter on Wikipedia would be remiss. I think that a paragraph about it on the EP page makes more sense than a separate article.--Counsel 16:35, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Conformation that aids hunting.
This is a common misconception. There is no such thing as conformation that aids hunting. As long as the dog has four legs and a nose, how it uses those things matters, not what they look like.--Counsel 22:43, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Conformation does aid in speed and endurance.

Show/Hunting Lines
Would it make sense to note the differences in breeding for show pointers verses field pointers? There is a distinct difference in their conformation and ability to find game.


 * I think it would. I am going to add a section on the differences.71.131.33.175 04:55, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Info
Our Pointer was rather thin, and the breeder instructed us to give it dripping/ lard, because apparetnly the reason it was having trouble gaining/ maintaining weight is that Pointer's lack a digestive enzyme of some sort which is needed to absorb fat from food. If someone could find a reference, I'm sure it would be a valid addition to the article. Tarcus 09:08, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Question???
What is the difference between this page and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointing_breed ? Why don't we just combine them? Omniii (talk) 05:45, 22 November 2007 (UTC)Omniii

Requested move
English pointer → Pointer – Rationale: The correct name for this breed IS POINTER, period! There is no such breed as "English Pointer" registerable with the AKC, FCI worldwide, et cetera. The ALTERNATIVE name for this breed is "English Pointer" but it is not the appropriate breed name which these dogs are registered under, or properly referred to as. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Webpointer (talk • contribs)
 * While the AKC may not recognize the name, "English Pointer" is a common colloquial amongst pointer enthusiasts, to distinguish from the German Shorthaired Pointer. 71.162.248.100 (talk) 02:39, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Survey

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 * Oppose. The most common meaning of pointer is not the dog. --Dhartung | Talk 06:15, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Oppose. There are many meanings of the word "pointer", even changing it to "Pointer (dog)" wouldn't work because of the "pointer" type. There's a disambig page already, English Pointer is sometimes used to avoid confusion. -- Pharaoh Hound  (talk)  12:04, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Discussion

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Note that English pointer may not be the official AKC/whatever name, but it's probably the most common name in English, a key part of the naming guidelines. The article should be at the most common name, and explain what other names the topic has and why they are used. Certainly it's obvious that "English N" is a name usually given outside of England, too. I don't know why there would be an objection to using this name, but the only other obvious alternative is Pointer (dog) (which itself directs to a generic page about more than one dog breed). --Dhartung | Talk 06:15, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Note: This was moved to Pointer (dog breed). Vegaswikian 04:51, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Description
"Pointers are even-tempered, congenial dogs happiest living indoors as part of the family." Is there a citation for this? I have known Pointers who live in kennels as well as ones that have lived indoors and when I was growing up ours lived in a doghouse in the back yard when winters got below freezing. They were all "happy". They are unhappy when they don't get their exercise. 67.164.199.239 (talk) 01:12, 31 December 2008 (UTC)