Talk:Political campaign

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Distinguishing
I have attempted to introduce a definition that distinguishes campaigning (aimed at involving large numbers of people in bringing about political change) from lobbying (direct relationships between interest groups and politicians).

This is a substantial change from the original article. I think it's valuable and I have some personal experience of the area. However I have no idea what, if any, academic consensus about this there is. The Land 20:16, 22 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Hi, new to wikipedia... but I wanted to mention that "electioneering" is the large scale, coordinated effort to rig a voting system. It is a legally defined term. Not just a political campaign, so "electioneering" should not redirect to "Political Campaign" but should become it's own topic...

Hustings
I am surprised that nothing is said about hustings. – Kaihsu 18:55, 2005 Feb 5 (UTC)

History
I added a history of American campaigns and a reading list of major books. Richard Jensen 67.176.74.236 05:27, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Merge?
Should this article's information be merged with this article: Political campaign staff --Blue387 02:23, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
 * no. The Land 08:31, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
 * no. The political campaign staff article is long enough to be on its own. -Tjss 03:08, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Quote attribution
The "Money is the mothers milk of politics" quote is from Jesse Unruh, there's an article about him, shouldn't we attribute the quote? Saline


 * Done; hopefully that is correct as there is no reference in that article. -- Beland 21:08, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

category rename
I've proposed to rename Category:Campaigning to Category:Election campaigning. The discussion is at Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_September_25. This might knock on to this article and others in the same category. Thanks jnestorius(talk) 23:59, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

style
Can anyone tell me what the word specific adds to this definition? Ace Diamond 22:00, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * A political campaign is an organized effort which to influence the decision making process within a specific group.

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Merge proposal
Election surprise should be cut back and merged with this article. The vague intangible idea of "election surprise" is a political campaign tactic, so this is the obvious article for what little information Election surprise could possibly contain. JayKeaton (talk) 07:50, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Disagree - this article is already tagged as failing to meet a worldview outlook, to include this predominantly US term and list of possible election surprises would not help globalise it. Both articles need work but a merge is not a solution for a pair inadequate articles. Fanx (talk) 22:18, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Merge USA sections
While some of the US political campaigns section may form a basis for relevant sections with worldwide scope, this should be merged to the article on US elections. This should then be replaced with a section entitled Political campaigning worldwide with a paragraph on the US, UK etc. TreveXtalk 13:05, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


 * If there are no objections I'm going to merge it out of this article? TreveXtalk 21:27, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Reversion
This edit seems to have reverted a whole bunch of changes I made to the structure and prose of the article. I assume this was a mistake as the edit was marked as minor. If it wasn't, here's my rationale:


 * Any political campaign is made up of three elements. The modern mnemonic is message, money, and machine. - This may be a nice aliterative phrase, but it's no way to structure the article. This division of 'campaigning' into three is nothing I've ever seen in any of the books on campaigning I've read. It fails to include key topics (e.g. campaign techniques) which then have to be dealt with elsewhere; it also fudges things together, for example 'message' includes both policy and the communication of that policy. This is also unsourced.
 * The message is a concise statement saying why voters should pick a candidate - too simplistic by far. The key messages of a campaign may comprise between one and several ideas, policies or statements. Books have been written on the number of different ways this "message" can be conveyed - a concise statement is just one.
 * The other changes I made reworked the existing material into a more coherent structure. This would obviously need to be expanded but we now have a logical base from which to do this.

TreveXtalk 17:11, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Indeed that was some sort of mistake; I had no intention of reverting your changes. I was merely repositioning the hatnote at the top of the page. I suspect that my edit ran into one of those mysterious glitches that needs to be reported as a bug, if only we could figure out what it was.
 * Now I'll go see if I can redo my intended edit without causing any new damage... --Orlady (talk) 18:15, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Merge proposal 2
Civil society campaign, a stub, should just merge into this article, as it is simply a (probably British) syononym. —  SMcCandlish  &#91;talk&#93; &#91;cont&#93; ‹(-¿-)› 06:01, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Agree- no new information in that article, basically the same topic, can easily be merged here. The DominatorTalkEdits 16:16, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Disagree - civil society organisations play a critical role in raising many issues that are beyond the formal political structures. Examples such as baby milk or Anti-retroviral treatments (for HIV) in developing economies are issues that stretch the political campaign label and lead to political campaigns. Mark Parker (talk) 13:42, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Oppose - The political campaign article is very long already and there is a big difference between a political campaign for office and one to effect social change. The groups that work to effect social change, such as NAACP, or Greenpeace work for many years and often decades to achieve their goals. Their work deserves and needs its own article because it is for social good without the personal desire for political power implicit in political campaigns for office. Marrante (talk) 06:12, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Marrate says it well. Rjensen (talk) 06:18, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Appearances can be deceiving. While some political machinations try to appear to be benign civil campaigns, that does not mean all civil campaigns need to be tarred with the same 'political' brush.  I came to the article hoping to read a discussion of how "campaigner" has come to be a perjorative, but that doesn't mean that 'campaigner' == 'politician', an even worse label!  I imagine the article has been expanded since the latest proposal (Sept 2008).  I'd love to see more improvements to the article, but obviously I'd contribute negatives, so won't.... :-)  Shenme (talk) 05:36, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Electioneering
Just wondering why Electioneering redirects here, it's not mentioned at all in the article. Thoughts? --IvoShandor (talk) 08:35, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Obstacle for democracies
Campaign financing is a major obstacle to democratic countries for them to call themselves as being truly democractic. This, as not all political parties are able to spend a same amount of money on their campaign; hence benefitting parties that have more money (which is hence inheritly undemocratic). This money comes from private founders/companies which often expect something in return (ie new laws that help them to increase their revenue), hence promoting corruption.mall money mall money XD

See http://www.cato.org/publications/policy-analysis/campaign-finance-regulation-faulty-assumptions-undemocratic-consequences, http://socialproblemsarelikemaths.blogspot.be/2012/04/when-is-campaign-finance-undemocratic.html , http://conventions.cps.neu.edu/campaign-finance/introduction/

Perhaps we also need to mention the Federal Election Campaign Act, Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, Tillman Act, Federal Corrupt Practices Act, Federal Election Campaign Act, Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act 81.242.247.101 (talk) 17:15, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

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