Talk:Political views of Albert Einstein/Archive 1

Socialist propaganda
this article reeks of socialist propaganda, just saiyin 128.250.5.246 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 07:52, 7 November 2011 (UTC).

I know, eh? The truth has a known socialist agenda. 198.84.162.153 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:05, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Assassination conspiracy
A man convicted of conspiring to kill Einstein was fined a mere six dollars. (source: Hawking) What was his name? From the context it seems that this happened in Germany, so why was the fine in dollars? Is this related?: ''Einstein also learned that his name was on a list of assassination targets, with a "$5,000 bounty on his head." [dollars again...] One German magazine included him in a list of enemies of the German regime with the phrase, "not yet hanged".'' (Albert Einstein citing Isaacson) The only other clue I was able to find is Nazi crackpot/FBI informer Paul Weyland being nicknamed "the Berlin Einstein-Killer", but that was a reporter's metaphor, AFAIK Weyland didn't plan to physically kill Einstein. --88.73.24.179 (talk) 13:16, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Visit in Büdingen
This visit is a fake, see german Wikipedia, Discussion Albert Einstein (or Pais Subtle is the Lord - last visit outside US was 1935 on Bermudas)--Meilenweit (talk) 16:28, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The visit to Büdingen is based on what is most likely a local hoax, so yes it is a fake of sorts indeed. In the German wikipedia the got corrected a while ago.--Kmhkmh (talk) 13:33, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Stayed in Switzerland during WWI?
The following section states: "Remaining in neutral Switzerland throughout World War I, Einstein was saved from fighting in the conflict. When Kaiser Wilhelm II abdicated and Germany moved to the Weimar Republic, Einstein was offered a position at a university. Einstein accepted the position, and in a show of support to the new democracy, Einstein reacquired German citizenship. In the years after the war, Einstein was very vocal in his support for Germany."

Wasn't he in Berlin during WWI? As it states on the main Albert_Einstein page: "In 1914, Einstein moved to Berlin, while his wife remained in Zurich with their sons. They divorced on 14 February 1919, having lived apart for five years."

I'll find a source if someone else doesn't first.Stuartea (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 00:24, 2 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Found a source & updated http://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/past-exhibitions/einstein/peace-and-war/europe-at-war Stuartea (talk) 10:05, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes Einstein was in Berlin during war (and opposing it). You will find that info in any good biography of him, which might serve also as a better source.--Kmhkmh (talk) 10:08, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

einstein and zionism
at that period of einstein he was anti zionist and that was the only reason he was signed that letter the herut merger the likud and she is now the current israeli government which einstein not just hate her called her nazi and facists so you can not say at that time einstein was zionist. but he was anti zionist for a very short time and became zionist again after israel establish On April 17, 1955, while working on a speech he was preparing to commemorate Israel's seventh anniversary, Einstein suffered an abdominal aortic aneurysm and experienced internal bleeding."http://www.biography.com/people/albert-einstein-9285408#final-ye. so this is wrong and i will correct you.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.246.130.247 (talk) 23:55, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Sockpuppet. BMK (talk) 01:14, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

einstein and his support for jewish immigration into palestine.
einstein support the jewish state but only as a bionational state "Nevertheless, he remained a strong proponent of unlimited Jewish immigration into Palestine." https://books.google.com/books?id=AIHgK-p6mhgC&pg=PA37&lpg=PA37&dq=nevertheless+he+remained+a+strong+proponent&source=bl&ots=bybUTffxu8&sig=oDzIQMy4N5g0eEt5A2Apypiggb4&hl=en&sa=X&ei=yCNrVf-IDMusUZDkgqAP&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=nevertheless%20he%20remained%20a%20strong%20proponent&f=false https://books.google.com/books?id=LBhvAwAAQBAJ&pg=PA440&lpg=PA440&dq=nevertheless+he+remained+a+strong+proponent&source=bl&ots=BlTTaFDXfn&sig=4A8Hmsc-Uotvx2Qeryry2A5a7Lo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=yCNrVf-IDMusUZDkgqAP&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=nevertheless%20he%20remained%20a%20strong%20proponent&f=false and another source say he supported jewish state as a bionational http://mondoweiss.net/2009/05/einstein-and-zionism "Einstein opposed partition and supported a bi-national state that would ensure equal rights for Palestinians and Jews - See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2009/05/einstein-and-zionism#sthash.zE4s3c7Z.dpuf" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.64.62.149 (talk) 18:37, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Block evasion. BMK (talk) 01:13, 16 June 2015 (UTC)


 * I replaced your edit with this, properly sourced, and properly worded, without messing up the sentences. - DVdm (talk) 19:25, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

5 sources claiming einstein was no longer pacifist since 1933
"With the rise of fascism in Germany, Einstein moved (1933) to the United States and abandoned his pacifism." http://www.phy.pmf.unizg.hr/~dpaar/fizicari/xeinstei.html "The rising threat of the Nazi party forced Einstein to abandon his pacifist principles and write a letter to President Roosevelt that triggered the the Manhattan Project." http://www.biography.com/people/albert-einstein-9285408/videos/albert-einstein-father-of-the-atomic-age-1453635737 "When Einstein finally abandoned his former pacifist stance in July 1933, this hate knew no bounds. " https://books.google.com/books?id=1bxYPMHPhGcC&pg=PA272&lpg=PA272&dq=einstein+abandoned+pacifism&source=bl&ots=PcIhiytvbs&sig=MzsTOl_NnB2c2Uy76o-_tMkv2ro&hl=iw&sa=X&ved=0CEIQ6AEwBWoVChMI6uSsgayQxgIVwe0UCh2_ZQDf#v=onepage&q=einstein%20abandoned%20pacifism&f=false "The fact that he only publicly abandoned pacifism after Hitler seized power hardly means that he was guilty of political naivete" https://books.google.com/books?id=AIHgK-p6mhgC&pg=PA53&dq=einstein+abandoned+pacifism&hl=iw&sa=X&ved=0CCQQ6AEwAWoVChMItd6l8qyQxgIVyGkUCh0iqgCI#v=onepage&q=einstein%20abandoned%20pacifism&f=false "when he learned how Hitler treated Jews, other minority groups, and those who opposed him, Einstein abandoned his stance of pacifism. " https://books.google.com/books?id=rLNmq1_hw3AC&pg=PA83&dq=einstein+abandoned+pacifism&hl=iw&sa=X&ved=0CDUQ6AEwA2oVChMItd6l8qyQxgIVyGkUCh0iqgCI#v=onepage&q=einstein%20abandoned%20pacifism&f=false "Einstein was a pacifist from his youth until 1933, when Hitler forced his hand on the issue.https://books.google.com/books?id=G_iziBAPXtEC&pg=PA245&lpg=PA245&dq=Einstein+was+a+pacifist+from+his+youth+until+1933,+when+Hitler+forced+his+hand+on+the+issue&source=bl&ots=NP728hipYp&sig=tSBWOhNPrlq02Kmh92ZoERw6zos&hl=iw&sa=X&ved=0CBwQ6AEwAGoVChMIiMiopt-SxgIVy27bCh184wA4#v=onepage&q=Einstein%20was%20a%20pacifist%20from%20his%20youth%20until%201933%2C%20when%20Hitler%20forced%20his%20hand%20on%20the%20issue&f=false — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.181.101.207 (talk) 21:43, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
 * This is a sock of User:Itaykaufman12, evading a block. BMK (talk) 23:31, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

sources einstein on being conceived pacifist and not absolute pacifist
einstein exact words were "i did not say that i was an absolute pacifist, but rather that i had always been a convinced pacifist. while i am a convinced pacifist, there are circumstances which i believe to use of force is appropriate - namely in the face of an enemy unconditionally bent on destroying me and my people(the jews)" https://books.google.co.il/books?id=G_iziBAPXtEC&pg=PA259&lpg=PA259&dq=I+am+a+dedicated+but+not+an+absolute+pacifist;+this+means+that+I+am+opposed+to+the+use+of+force+under+any+circumstances+except+when+confronted+by+an+enemy+who+pursues+the+destruction+of+life+as+an+end+in+itself&source=bl&ots=NP729obw1s&sig=hXOD_eURJ0bE-gEktKjsrZaWl10&hl=iw&sa=X&ei=3NCBVYC6E66Q7AaunIDYBw&ved=0CBwQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=I%20am%20a%20dedicated%20but%20not%20an%20absolute%20pacifist%3B%20this%20means%20that%20I%20am%20opposed%20to%20the%20use%20of%20force%20under%20any%20circumstances%20except%20when%20confronted%20by%20an%20enemy%20who%20pursues%20the%20destruction%20of%20life%20as%20an%20end%20in%20itself&f=false https://books.google.co.il/books?id=Mpgs6qqNERwC&pg=PA60&lpg=PA60&dq=i+did+not+say+that+i+was+an+absolute+pacifist,+but+rather+that+i+had+always+been+a+convinced+pacifist.+while+i+am+a+convinced+pacifist,+there+are+circumstances+which+i+believe+to+use+of+force+is+appropriate+-+namely+in+the+face+of+an+enemy+unconditionally+bent+on+destroying+me+and+my+people&source=bl&ots=-d9xPHUn26&sig=X6Bq5DLHUlLbo4_dxQXIdsm-xNE&hl=iw&sa=X&ei=XNiBVfn_M8H1UoX8gZAK&ved=0CBwQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=i%20did%20not%20say%20that%20i%20was%20an%20absolute%20pacifist%2C%20but%20rather%20that%20i%20had%20always%20been%20a%20convinced%20pacifist.%20while%20i%20am%20a%20convinced%20pacifist%2C%20there%20are%20circumstances%20which%20i%20believe%20to%20use%20of%20force%20is%20appropriate%20-%20namely%20in%20the%20face%20of%20an%20enemy%20unconditionally%20bent%20on%20destroying%20me%20and%20my%20people&f=false  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.12.148.57 (talk) 15:01, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
 * This is block evasion by User:Morbenmoshe. BMK (talk) 17:02, 21 June 2015 (UTC)