Talk:Popham Colony

Ralegh vs. Raleigh
In the past few months, there have been a half-dozen edits regarding the spelling of colony-leader Gilbert's given name: Ralegh or Raleigh?

The accepted spelling seems to be Ralegh despite the fact that nearly everyone in the English-speaking world with a similar name spells it Raleigh. Consequently, it gets "corrected" frequently.

Is there a definitive source one way or another? Could someone cite it here so we can stop going back and forth? Thanks. - Pjmorse 21:57, 4 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I apologize for an incorrect edit if it is proven to be so. I had recently purchased a book entitled Avalon Chronicles The English in America 1497 - 1696 where it does reference Raleigh as the accepted spelling. Reference the following site as it also uses the Raleigh spelling at pophamcolony.org. HJKeats 22:11, 4 September 2006 (UTC)


 * -Additional sourced material-
 * In the book entitled Avalon Chronicles The English in America 1497 - 1696 there exists an 30 page chapter entitled Popham: The First English Colony in New England written by Jeffrey P. Brain of the Peabody Essex Museum, Salem, Massachusetts, where, as I stated above, the spelling used throughout the article is Raleigh. That article has 34 references with an endnote offering further detail to reference the site www.pophamcolony.org.


 * Note; however, an original source, the First charter of Virginia, as well as other "good" sources like the U.S. National Park Service , and A Dictionary of British History originally published by Oxford University Press, 2004 . These all use Ralegh. See also the name discussion which begins the Walter Raleigh article. Rmhermen 23:21, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Sarsaparilla
trade with the Abenaki for furs and gather a cargo of sarsaparilla.

Above line from the page. The link to sarsaparilla is to a Central American plant, highly unlikely to be available to the Abenaki to trade. The northern species are the wild sarsaparilla and the bristly sarsaparilla. Does anyone have a clue as to which species would have neen in Maine at that time? --Dumarest (talk) 17:40, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Merge Fort St. George article into Popham Colony article?
I propose that the Fort St. George (Popham Colony) article be incorporated into the Popham Colony article. The fort was the nucleus of the short-lived colony. Ketone16 (talk) 16:58, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I haven't been involved with either article, but it seems like a good idea to me. The Fort and the colony were essentially one. Wordreader (talk) 21:54, 11 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Fort St. George merged here.Mannanan51 (talk) 04:25, 25 September 2012 (UTC)Mannanan51

Native American vs. First Nations
Although the Abenaki in a broad sense included First Nations people, i.e. Native Canadians, those that were in contact with the settlers/invaders would not be considered First Nations in that strict definition. They are grouped by a common language, but so are the United States, England and Australia. It wouldn't make sense to write that 'The English, a group that included the U.K. and the United States, were at war with Napoleon.' It is true however, that the Abenaki the were in contact with the settlers were eventually pushed up into Quebec, and therefore went on to become part of the First Nations. Can anyone weigh in on this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.239.72.120 (talk) 23:28, 12 September 2013 (UTC)