Talk:Port Arthur massacre (Australia)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 January 2022
In the Attacks section, under Port Arthur Historic Site, the term 'wasps' links to the insect, rather than identifying this term to mean White Anglo Saxon Protestants W.A.S.P

At around 1:10 p.m., Bryant paid the entry fee for the site and proceeded to park near the Broad Arrow Café, near the water's edge. The site security manager told him to park with the other cars because that area was reserved for camper-vans and the car park was busy that day. Bryant moved his car to another area and sat in his car for a few minutes. He then moved his car back near the water, outside the café. The security manager saw him go up to the café carrying a "sports-type bag" and a video camera, but ignored him. Bryant went into the café and purchased a meal, which he ate on the deck outside. He attempted to start conversations with people about the lack of wasps in the area and there not being as many Japanese tourists as usual. He appeared nervous and "quite regularly" looked back to the car-park and into the café.[1] 220.253.229.26 (talk) 20:41, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:51, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Missing murder of the Martins
Reading the section titled "Attacks" I notice the only mention of the deaths of the Martins at their property was at the beginning of the article. Why are they not mentioned and why does the timeline start at the arrival of the couple to the Seascape? 47.151.213.85 (talk) 06:48, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Requested move 27 November 2022

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Favonian (talk) 14:45, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

Port Arthur massacre (Australia) → Port Arthur massacre (Tasmania) – per WP:NCAUST – as this is an Australian article, this article should use the relevant jurisdiction as its disambiguator. SHB2000 (talk) 12:00, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

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 * Oppose This is a global encyclopaedia, with a global audience. There are two articles in Wikipedia about Port Arthur massacres, this one and Port Arthur massacre (China). They are disambiguated by use of their country names. That works fine, and would be clear to the vast majority of our readers. Changing Australia to Tasmania would actually be slightly less clear to our global audience, some of whom I know from experience sadly don't understand Tasmania's geopolitical relationship with the rest of Australia. The proposed change would be equivalent to changing the title of the other article to Port Arthur massacre (Liaoning), obviously not as useful a title to most readers. HiLo48 (talk) 22:53, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
 * What you and are claiming contradict the MoS page I linked. --SHB2000 (talk) 10:05, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
 * The policy you have linked clearly applies to disambiguation of geographic place names, not for disambiguation of events (who happen to have a location chosen as a distinguishing feature). It is clearly meant for articles like Madison, Wisconsin. Applying WP:NCAUST here is inappropriate, and if you are claiming that it should apply here, perhaps it would be a good idea to show that there is a consensus for treating such cases with the broader, geography-only policy that you have linked. Acebulf  (talk &#124; contribs)  17:52, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Using the country rather that a subdivision for the parenthetical disambiguation is preferable. Rreagan007 (talk) 22:22, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose There is no need to disambiguate further than country-level distinction. HiLo48 also raises some strong arguments about discoverability, which favor keeping the title as-is. Acebulf  (talk &#124; contribs)  03:57, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Weak Oppose. Almost, but oppose for two reasons: (1) WP:TITLECHANGES. The difference is to small to be worth the costs, had’ve it been Tasmanian on creation I’d support leaving it, but it is not important enough to change title. (2) The significant impacts, consequences, legally and culturally, were nationwide, not statewide.  —SmokeyJoe (talk) 07:17, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment The usual practice for labelling incidents whose monikers don't qualify for WP:NOYEAR is to use the year in the title, no? — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 08:48, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

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