Talk:Port of Salem

Coordinate error
The port is at the waterfront to the wet near Barber's Basin. Djflem (talk) 22:38, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅. Deor (talk) 12:30, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Resources/Refs
It is difficult to put the story together with available information, but it appears the the municipal port authority engaged private operator to operate port facilities, including Del Stevedoring at the Muniicpal Wharf north of Barber's Basin. they also built a silo that turned out was unusable since ships handling products stored couldn't access port due to shallow depths. Eventually SJPC took over part of the port, at the Salem Terminal, located at Municipal Wharf.


 * I updated the listed ports and past ownership of the current Salem Terminal based on the philly.com citations.


 * If you have a citation for "they also built a silo that turned out was unusable since ships handling products stored couldn't access port due to shallow depths." that statement can be added. It appears that the picture that SJPC has on their website for this terminal shows three blue silos. Current Google satellite map shows no silos, which had initially confused me since I was searching up and down the Salem River on Google for those three blue silos as a marker for the Salem Terminal location. If you don't have a news citation, perhaps the article can state. "Three silos, which were installed for storing bulk transfer materials, have since been removed." and we can include the before (SJPC Salem Terminal website with picture) and after (Google satellite map) pictures.Wondering55 (talk) 21:23, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

The Salem Municipal Port Authority was established in 1984, but seems to have lacked the expetise to run it. In 1988, it leased part of the publicly-owned Municipal Wharf to Salem Marine, a private corporation. In 1993/1994 management of the Municipal Wharf was taken over by the South Jersey Port Corporation (SJPC), which seems in turn may have leased it to Del Stevedoring/Del Lines. While there were attempts to find another private operator (during the aborted attempt to merge a Philadelphia/South Jersey port operations into the DRPA) it is dubious what happened. In 1996 South Jersey Port Corporation became owners and operators of Municipal Wharf, now Salem Terminal. While SJPC website claims an facility acreage of 22 acre, other describe that as the size of the entire port district, which include the Salem Terminal at 3.5 acre, Mid-Atlantic operations (former Major's Wharf and others) including Tilbury Road Wharf (Bermuda International Terminal)? The marine terminal operators at Salem seem to be only MId-Atlantic and SJPC, though Bermuda International Terminals may lease land from SJPC.
 * Chrono-Salem Municipal/Salem Terminal


 * 1984 Salem Municipal Port Authority
 * 1988 Salem Marine
 * 1994 SJPC assumes management
 * 1994 Del Line established as shipping company
 * 1995 Del Stevedores/Alum Chem
 * 1995 AluChem/British concern
 * 1996 SJPC assumes ownership
 * 1996 Salem Terminals


 * Mid-Atlantic operates the Bermuda International Terminal and Tilbury Road Associates owned wharfs on both sides of Barber's Basin. Listed telephone number for the 2 wharfs on the following citations connect to Mid-Atlantic. I also verified this with the Mid-Atlantic owner.Wondering55 (talk) 02:59, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Djflem (talk) 15:25, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Citation Reference Details and Format
Eventually, someone needs to go edit this article so all citations should display minimum information of Title, issue date (if applicable), author (if applicable), publisher, and access date, along with any other applicable/useful info based on Wikipedia guidelines. Citations should display Titles rather than the url's.Wondering55 (talk) 21:36, 31 August 2013 (UTC)


 * ✅ by others.Wondering55 (talk) 02:40, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Unit Conversions
Eventually, someone needs to provide converted metric units for each of the English units, which do not have conversions in this article.Wondering55 (talk) 21:39, 31 August 2013 (UTC)


 * ✅Wondering55 (talk) 02:59, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Article Name Change
I propose to change the article name to "Port of Salem (New Jersey)" since there are several "Salems" in the United States.Wondering55 (talk) 01:49, 3 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Doesn't seen to need Disambiguation since it's about Port and not "a" Salem in the USA.Djflem (talk) 09:21, 3 September 2013 (UTC)


 * It would be helpful have this differentiation in order to quickly identify to those searching that Port of Salem is in New Jersey. There are dozens of Salems in the United States and the World. People do not immediately know which Salem this port is associated with. Port of Salem (New Jersey) would immediately clear up the mystery. Ports.com has a listing for the "Port of Salem", except that it is the port in Massachusetts, which is more well known. It lists Salem, NJ for this port.


 * It is not like this NJ port is the world famous Port of Salem that everybody knows about and where it is located like the Port of San Francisco or Port of Philadelphia, which are shown in Wikipedia. Some of the other Salems in Wikipedia have ports. Rather than wait for any problems if an article was created for a port for their city, let us be proactive now while this Port of Salem article is fairly new so that we don't have to disambiguate like was done for the Port of Wilmington (Delaware). The name change would be relatively minor, but with a big effect for Wikipedia searchers.


 * Wikipedia prefers a more descriptive term when a single term is ambiguous. "Port of Salem" is ambiguous.Wondering55 (talk) 01:05, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Tophat added to disam with Salem Harbor.Djflem (talk) 10:39, 5 September 2013 (UTC)