Talk:Porter (beer)/Archive 1

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Does anyone have a non-commercial photo of a porter to submit? The &#379;ywiec photo looks nice, but it's an advertisement. --Theodore Kloba 17:46, Feb 16, 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, actualy I'm not pretty sure, that Żywiec Porter is a kind of proper porter bear... ain't it a so callad Baltic Porter?

Żywiec is a Baltic Porter and while it is certaily a type of porter (and a fine beer) is probably not the best representative of Porters over all. Next time I drink a porter, ill take a photo of one in the glass and submitt it.

After reading Beer: The Story of the Pint by Martyn Cornell (2003, Headline), it's clear that the story of Three-threads being a blend of three beers and porter being an attempt to replicate the mix in a single brew is ficticious. They simply did not have the skill in the art of brewing to know how to predict what the flavour would be like. Jooler 08:45, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

Furthermore, "three threads" is described as a mixture of "ale, beer and twopenny". Surely "ale" and "twopenny" are both beers, so what is the third component? --86.154.113.101 14:37, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

In the 18th century Britain beer and ale were not synonyms. Ale was lightly-hopped and came in 32 gallon barrels. Beer was heavily-hopped (at around thre times the rate of ale) and came in 36 gallon barrels. Porter, by the way, was a beer. The "three threads" story is almost certainly total rubbish. The passage on the development of Porter in which it first appeared was written in the early 1800's but was based on a letter written by Obadiah Poundage (who had worked for several decades in the brewing trade) in 1760. The poundage letter makes no mention of three threads.Patto1ro 13:22, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Notable Porters
What is the criteria for inclusion here? It seems to me that people are just putting their favourites in. If we require a sentence about *why* they're notable, the list would be more interesting, more useful, and more in keeping with its title. PeteVerdon 15:20, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I think it is more like "list of all porters". I am not sure there are really any notable porters any more, as it is more interesting in a historic sense. I tend to delete this lists from articles when I get around to it. Or turn it to a category (not in this case as they dont need individual articles) or a List of article. At least they dont have external links, people trying to spam link. Justinc 19:45, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I tidied the list up a bit, removing some of the more obscure ones and adding a common format to how each one was listed. There are still quite a few there though. Feebtlas 23:30, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Far too many American examples, as usual... --SandyDancer 00:27, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Żywiec is not IN Cieszyn - these are two different Polish towns separated by some 46 km in a straight line. Lifter67 83.5.123.115 07:56, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I was in the Cheshire Cheese in Fleet Street recently, and that still sells a perfectly drinkable Sam Smiths Taddy Porter. Their website even has a perfectly good picture of a bottle of porter (http://www.merchantduvin.com/pages/5_breweries/samsmith_taddy.html), so I'd dispute the statement that it is no longer brewed in the UK. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.172.169.17 (talk • contribs) 16:48, 29 May 2007

Porter and Stout
I disagree that Porter is a synonym for Stout. All Stouts are a type of Porter but not all Porters are Stouts. I think it's an important distinction.Patto1ro 11:02, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

I agree - they are not synonyms.

Origin of the name, "Porter"
I am curious as to the origin of the name porter. Does it have to do with the occupation of a porter, the location of ports, or what? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.254.205.53 (talk) 09:06, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Question
Are porters and stouts an ale or lager or neither?--E tac (talk) 06:36, 16 February 2008 (UTC) Neither. By the definitions of the 18th century Porter and Stout are Brown Beers.Patto1ro (talk) 12:05, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Without objections, I shall link this aticle to the BJCP. BJCP (talk) 22:38, 6 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I object.Patto1ro (talk) 05:39, 7 April 2009 (UTC)