Talk:Porter Novelli

Peter Hehir
This page links to Peter Hehir as being one of the two leaders, but I don't think we're talking about the actor here, are we? -WarthogDemon 22:16, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

WarthogDemon is right, of course. Could someone please remove this?

--Mediaczar (talk) 10:00, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Updates
Please can someone change this article to reflect changes in executive leadership announced in December 2007?

| Porter Novelli's website now lists the exec officers as:


 * Chairman: Helen Ostrowski
 * CEO: Gary Stockman
 * CFO: Mike Gehb
 * President Americas: Julie Winskie
 * President EMEA: Jean Wyllie

Confirmation available via | Google Finance

--Mediaczar (talk) 09:58, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

COI edit requests
Hi! I work for Voce Communications, a subsidiary of Porter Novelli. I’d like to request the following updates to this article:
 * Adding an infobox:
 * Updating lead with additional detail and sources:
 * Updating lead with additional detail and sources:


 * Updating History section with sources, detail reflecting sources, removing unsourced info, and adding recent acquisitions:


 * Renaming "Notable campaigns" to "Notable campaigns and clients", adding sources and detail to reflect sources, removing unsourced info:


 * Adding a Reception section:

For reference, I've mocked up all the changes in my sandbox. Due to my COI, I won't be editing the article directly, so I'd greatly appreciate any help or feedback. Thank you!

AngelaMPena (talk) 18:33, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
 * The mockup you provided looked good. I've implemented it into the article, and am also asking that regular editors that find this post make comments with improvement for future requests where necessary. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 00:58, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I have undone this. This contains raw marketing bullshit.  Do not implement these without reviewing them carefully, and be very careful about what you are removing when you implement things.  Jytdog (talk) 03:47, 7 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi, , thank you for taking the time to look at this. While I understand that my last two items are more debatable, hoping you’ll be willing to take a second look at my first three requests—the infobox, the lead and the History section. I’ve tried to provide additional sourcing and more current detail to replace absent, inaccurate, or insufficiently sourced aspects of the article, including revising some numbers downward (e.g. 35 offices instead of 100). Hopefully we can reach an agreement about some neutral updates to this article. Thank you! AngelaMPena (talk) 17:12, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
 * You appear to be proposing to replace the content in the history section, and you did not incorporate anything from this ref. Leaving negative information out violates the WP:NPOV policy as well as the WP:PROMO policy.   Please feel free to repropose content that follows the NPOV policy.  Please see your talk page as well. Jytdog (talk) 21:53, 16 August 2017 (UTC)


 * My apologies. I did not exclude that ref out of malice. From my perspective it seemed like a minor, not particularly notable story, but I understand how its omission felt deceptive and I apologize. I've added it back in to the draft above. If you have a moment, I would love to hear your feedback on what else needs to be done to bring the infobox, lead and History section up to par. I believe they are an improvement over what's currently in the article and have striven to make them neutral and sufficiently sourced. Thank you. AngelaMPena (talk) 16:51, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

revised COI edit requests
Hi. For the sake of clarity, I'm repeating a few of the requests above down here. While the previous edit request was denied, I'm asking that the requests below receive a second look. I believe they improve the quality of sources and detail currently in the article, and the third request has been updated in line with feedback from.


 * Adding an infobox: ✅
 * Updating lead with additional detail and sources:
 * Updating lead with additional detail and sources:


 * Updating History section with sources, detail reflecting sources, removing unsourced info, and adding recent acquisitions:

Like my colleague, I'm an employee of Porter Novelli-owned Voce Communications, and I won't edit the article directly. Thank you for your time and consideration. Mary Gaulke (talk) 17:39, 4 October 2017 (UTC)


 * ✅ Added the infobox as it was all I could vet and seems appropriate and harmless. Grama24 (talk) 23:24, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Mary Gaulke (talk) 18:22, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

COI edit requests
Hi! As disclosed above, I work for Porter Novelli. It's been a few years, so I'm requesting some updates to this article. All the edits are also mocked up here (sans the logo, since it's in userspace).

Lead
1. Replace, which is unsourced, with   (Ref name already in use in article.)

2. FYI, I also updated the logo from the "greater than" icon alone to the full logo.

History
3. Add after first paragraph:  (Ref name already in use in article.)

4. Add to end of second paragraph:

5. At the beginning of the third paragraph, replace  with just , simply for the sake of concision and avoiding excessive detail.

6. Update URL for 2009 source used after "Blockbuster Video", to https://www.prweek.com/article/1272104/porter-novelli-agency-business-report-2009.

7. Grammar fixes in that same paragraph: Replacing  with

8. Add immediately after "In 2011" at beginning of final paragraph:

9. Add to end of final paragraph:

10. Add to end of section:

Notable campaigns
11. Add to beginning of section:

12. Add to current first paragraph (additions highlighted in yellow):

13. Delete final, non-notable paragraph:

14. Add to end of section:

I will, of course, not be editing the article directly. Thanks for any help or feedback! Mary Gaulke (talk) 02:09, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ This all seems straightforward and this request has been sitting here for more than a week without any objections. Chetsford (talk) 21:26, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

COI editor issues
The above exchange is from my talk page. I am only just now realizing that User:MaryGaulke is a paid editor with a conflict of interest. There was no disclosure to me of a conflict of interest while they were telling me to make changes to this article. There is also no connected contributor template on this talk page. These are clear violations of WP:DISCLOSEPAY. Is this behavior typical for Porter Novelli? Are there other instances where you have made edit requests without disclosing your COI? gobonobo + c 11:35, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Since you have brought this matter to the attention of the COI Noticeboard, I have replied to your post there. Suffice to say here that it appears that has acted properly and in good faith in disclosing her COI and in requesting edits rather than making them herself.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:21, 18 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Dear : The problem is that it can be tricky to tell who's paid and who's not. Five years ago, there was some discussion regarding fixing this; the discussion happened at User:Doc James/Paid editing. In the discussion, User:Rich Farmbrough, User:Opabinia regalis, and User:Wnt all seemed to agree that there should be a "paid vs. unpaid" bit which new users set at account creation time. Unfortunately, that never happened. I dunno why. —Unforgettableid (talk) 23:59, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Changes to the software take a long time, and need a lot more support than just a handful of editors. Also WMF is not always minded to provide what the community wants.  All the best: Rich Farmbrough  01:06, 6 July 2020 (UTC).

Undisclosed paid template
Hi! Could you please clarify to which other editors you're referring in this diff, or which content concerns you? As Porter Novelli's representative on Wikipedia, I'd obviously like to help address any issues with this article, but first I need a little more understanding of the problem. Thank you! Mary Gaulke (talk) 16:42, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi ! Possibly, , and other edits. That said, I've now looked more carefully through the article itself, and it looks OK to me, so I've removed the tag. —Unforgettableid (talk) 05:39, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Notability
Hi! In light of being added to this article, I reviewed the sources currently cited in the text. I believe these four meet WP:ORGCRIT:

Pinging you first since you were the one to add the template. Any interest in taking a look and clarifying if these meet the standard? If you prefer, I can also add and invite someone else to review.

Happy to identify additional sources if it's helpful. As noted above/in my profile, I work for Porter Novelli and won't be editing directly. Thanks! Mary Gaulke (talk) 20:45, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi . I appreciate you not editing directly! After looking at the Severson article, I removed notability; the firm is probably notable. —Unforgettableid (talk) 05:30, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

COI edit requests re: Seema Verma
Hi! It's that time again. As noted above, I'm a COI editor working for Porter Novelli. Two recent edits to this article – a new section at the top from and an addition to the end of "Notable campaigns" from  – are quite redundant of each other, and I think it would make sense to merge them into a shared subsection of either "History" or "Notable campaigns". A full, top-level section for one event in a 48-year history is in my opinion WP:UNDUE (especially as the first section in the article).✅ A few other notes: I am happy to propose new specific wording if it's helpful, but I also respect that it's probably best if I involve myself in how this is worded as little as possible. I'm just looking to keep this article accurate and compliant with the MOS. Thank you for your time/feedback. Mary Gaulke (talk) 18:22, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * The section title should be in sentence case per MOS:SECTIONCAPS, which is probably WP:COIU but I didn't want to risk fixing it myself. ✅
 * The first mention of Verma's first name is misspelled. ✅
 * Having a WP:EL in the article body is a MOS violation. ✅
 * Re: "The report details how Porter Novelli shuffled money to private Republican political operators including Nahigian Strategies, Pam Stevens, and nearly two dozen other Republican contractors." In fact, the report clearly and repeatedly states that the CMS Administrator, not PN, directed the use of consultants with Republican ties.
 * Re: Nahigian Strategies specifically, page 10 of the report states, "Nahigian Strategies, which had served as a contractor for CMS in prior administrations, began providing consulting services to CMS during Administrator Verma’s tenure under CMS’s Deloitte agreement and continued consulting for CMS under both the 2017 and 2018 Porter Novelli agreements." So again, Porter Novelli did not initiate work with Nahigian.
 * Same thing with Pam Stevens. From page 13 of the report: "Further, emails obtained by the Committees show that top officials in the Administrator’s office specifically sought out Stevens’s services and initiated her engagement with Porter Novelli."
 * And I'm not sure where "nearly two dozen other Republican contractors" came from. Closest correlation comes from page 13 of the report: "Porter Novelli engaged at least five other consultants to support its work under the various task orders with CMS."
 * Per the source cited, it is categorically inaccurate to state that Porter Novelli "violated the law". The full report only states that CMS, not PN, "potentially" violated the law. Furthermore, CMS, not PN, controlled the funding, so it is inaccurate to claim that PN was "funneling tax payer funds." The NYT source cited later in the article mentions Porter Novelli only twice, and also does not corroborate these claims.
 * The second mention of Verma's name is a MOS:REPEATLINK. ✅
 * Hi . for now: I agree with the due weight thing, so I have cut the second section and moved the first one under the history section (plus the MOS stuff; diff). I didn't, however, have time to tackle a rewrite, since I feel like I'd have to dig into the report for that. Hence leaving this open so someone else can have a look. Once again thanks for complying with our COI guidelines and best, Blablubbs (talk • contribs) 10:16, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi Please propose the specific changes you would still like to see.  Thank you!  Orville talk 07:04, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi No problem – I propose:
 * Deleting  The report states that the CMS Administrator, not PN, directed the use of consultants. (Further details on Nahigian, Pam Stevens, and "nearly two dozen" itemized above.)
 * Updating  to   – Again, more detail on this above.
 * Please let me know if I can do anything else to help. Thanks! Mary Gaulke (talk) 15:40, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi I've implemented the second requested change showing that CMS "potentially" violated the law.  I've left the first part alone.  The article correctly describes the relationship between the CMS Administrator and Porter Novelli (as the intermediary).  Orville talk 08:32, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

COI Edit Request: New CEO and Longer Lead
Hi there! I have a COI: Porter Novelli is my employer. Requesting a few edits to this article to update outdated information and address the flag that the lead could be improved.

Infobox

 * Porter Novelli has a new CEO. Update "Key People" in the infobox to read "David Bentley (CEO) ", replacing "Brad MacAfee (CEO)"

Lead

 * Here's a proposed fleshed-out version of the lead, in response to . All of this info is also present in the article body, so refs are omitted per MOS:CITELEAD.
 * The firm was founded in Washington, D.C., in 1972 by Bill Novelli and Jack Porter. Its first major client was the National Institutes of Health. Omnicom Group acquired Porter Novelli in 1988. Historically, most of the company's revenue has come from the information technology and pharmaceutical sectors. In the 2010s, Porter Novelli acquired both Voce Communications and Cone Communications. In 2018, the firm launched a "purpose practice" for organizations focused on corporate social responsibility. Past notable campaigns include an HIV prevention campaign for the Centers for Disease Control, the USDA MyPyramid food guidance system, and the M&M's Global Color Vote.

History

 * After "Brad MacAfee then became CEO in February 2016, when van Bergen rose to the role of CEO of parent Omnicom Public Relations Group", add:
 * David Bentley became the CEO in March 2020, replacing Brad MacAfee.

Thanks for your help and feedback!

JZindler (talk) 19:23, 31 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Yes check.svg Done WhinyTheYounger (WtY)  (talk, contribs)  03:12, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

2023 COI edit request
Hi! As noted above, I'm a PN employee with a couple edit requests for this article:
 * 1. Update the "key people" parameter in the infobox to "Jillian Janaczek (CEO)"
 * 2. Add to end of "History" section:
 * Jillian Janaczek, formerly of Burson Cohn & Wolfe, became CEO in August 2023, following David Bentley's departure in June.

Thanks for your help! Mary Gaulke (talk) 21:15, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ Directions for successfully retaining the prior reference in the infobox (ref name Bentley) were not included with the request. As this source still references other information within the article, directions should have been included for its retention elsewhere, in order to keep the article tidy. As it stands the prior reference now incorrectly acts as a source for information which it does not verify, something which would normally be grounds for declining the edit request. Regards, Spintendo  14:08, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I've moved the named ref to the next location in the article where it was used, in the History section (figured this fell under WP:COIU). Mary Gaulke (talk) 13:55, 21 August 2023 (UTC)