Talk:Portland Club (London)

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What do we mean by "the oldest bridge club"?
The article says "It is reputedly the oldest bridge club in the world", where the word "bridge" is currently a link to our contract bridge article. But the claim clearly isn't referring specifically to contract bridge but to all variants of the game (it might even be including whist, though in that case the word "bridge" is misleading). Other bridge clubs would have introduced contract bridge at the same time as, or even slightly before, the Portland. Perhaps we should say "the oldest bridge club in the world, initially for bridge whist, subsequently auction bridge and finally contract bridge"? JH (talk page) 17:10, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Good point. The OEB 7th edition states on page 5:


 * "In London, members of the Portland Club began to play bridge in 1894 at the urging of Lord Brougham, who had learned it in India from some army officers. (W. Dalton in Auction Bridge Magazine of September 1927 states that Lord Brougham brought the game from Cairo)."


 * Development of Whist to Bridge Whist to Auction Bridge to Contract Bridge is the reasonably well accepted sequence for the evolution of the current game. So it would be equally logical to say that bridge, per se, did not exist at the time of inception of the Portland Club. I distinguish bridge from its predecessors by the nature of the auction.


 * How far back Whist was something else is less certain.


 * Let us say "oldest such club" so that the "such" refers back to "card-playing game club"


 * Being bold, I will do so. Newwhist (talk) 18:08, 6 September 2014 (UTC)