Talk:Portugal

Way too long
This page should be improved based on England or Japan. It's a mess currently. 2A00:23C7:6989:2701:D45D:AEF4:E222:51BC (talk) 00:27, 16 November 2023 (UTC)


 * In response to your "Way too Long" observation, how is it that individual biographies (e.g. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Bernstein) are even longer, yet contain no similar criticism? 2804:14C:6A:9449:D1C1:F422:127E:D3D2 (talk) 14:10, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
 * many biographies, mostly men but there are exceptions, come in for exactly the same criticism e.g. Napoleon used to be longer but has been trimmed. Bernstein is 10,000 words so it's perhaps been trimmed since you mentioned it. You're free to go on the talkpages of the biographies? Tom B (talk) 16:58, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Government finance content moved to Economy of Portugal page?
Following the requests to organize and/or slim down the page, I propose the Government finance content to be moved to the Economy of Portugal page. The Economy content in the Portugal page already has a brief summary of the Government financial situation between 2010 and 2017.Tuesp1985 (talk) 23:59, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Structure suggestions
I asked ChatGPT 4 to produce an outline

User: Write a detailed outline for a Wikipedia article on Portugal. Then asked "put that into wiki mark up"

Introduction
- Brief overview of Portugal - Mention its geographical location in Europe - Include a summary of key points covered in the article

Geography
- Location and borders of Portugal - Regions and topography - Major rivers, mountains, and natural features

History
- Prehistoric settlements - Roman and Moorish influence - Emergence as a kingdom - Age of Discoveries - Napoleonic Wars and the Peninsular War - Transition to a republic - Carnation Revolution - Modern political history

Government and Politics
- Political system (e.g., semi-presidential republic) - The head of state and head of government - Political parties and elections - Foreign relations and diplomacy

Economy
- Overview of Portugal's economy - Key industries (e.g., agriculture, manufacturing, services) - Trade and international relations - Economic challenges and reforms

Language and Literature
- Portuguese language and dialects - Literature and notable authors

Visual Arts
- Visual arts and famous artists

Music and Dance
- Music genres (e.g., Fado, Portuguese folk music) - Dance forms and traditions

Cuisine
- Cuisine and popular dishes (e.g., bacalhau, pastéis de nata)

Festivals and Celebrations
- Festivals and celebrations

Landmarks and Tourism
- Prominent tourist destinations (e.g., Lisbon, Porto, Algarve) - UNESCO World Heritage Sites - Historical landmarks and architecture (e.g., Jerónimos Monastery, Tower of Belém) - Natural attractions (e.g., Douro Valley, Azores, Madeira) - Tourism statistics and industry

Demographics
- Population size and growth - Ethnic groups and diversity - Languages spoken - Religion and religious practices - Education and literacy rates

Education
- Educational system in Portugal - Primary, secondary, and higher education - Notable universities and research institutions

Sports
- Popular sports in Portugal (e.g., football, futsal) - Successes in international competitions (e.g., UEFA European Championship) - Notable athletes and sporting events

Bot structure with history expanded: === Geography ===

History
- Prehistoric settlements - Roman and Moorish influence

- Emergence as a kingdom - Age of Discoveries

- Napoleonic Wars and the Peninsular War - Transition to a republic - Carnation Revolution - Modern political history

Sports
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History
- Prehistory - Roman Lusitania and Gallaecia - Germanic kingdoms - The Reconquista - Independence - Age of Discoveries - Iberian Union and Restoration - Pombaline era and Enlightenment - Crises of the nineteenth century - First Republic and Estado Novo - Carnation Revolution and European integration

Culture
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They're similar, because ChatGPT uses Wikipedia, amongst other sources. But these outlines provide ideas, usually showing where the current structure is bloated e.g. history, Tom B (talk) 19:06, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Commas
There are a lot of sentences beginning with "In [year]" which don't use a comma after that expression. Shouldn't it be used in English? Quite sure that's recommended, to say the least. Thanks, RodRabelo7 (talk) 06:24, 21 April 2024 (UTC)


 * It's recommended in American English, but this article appears to use British English which doesn't require it. Nikkimaria (talk) 12:46, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 July 2024
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}the best soccer player is Portuguese (Cristiano Ronaldo } 175.39.225.101 (talk) 05:00, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Not done: It's not clear what change you want to be made to the article. Also, Wikipedia generally does not state opinions like "best"; instead, it describes factual statements about the opinion. Quadrantal (talk) 16:10, 10 July 2024 (UTC)