Talk:Portuguese Air Force

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I am working on this and it should get finished in the next few days. Please be patient and don't delete it in the meantime. Thanks.

Guinnog 21:03, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I advice you to add content here in one or two days, or it will get speedy deleted. Punkmorten 18:00, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks Punkmorten. I've had a busy week at work but have been assembling some content which I'll put up tonight. It's 'advise' btw.Guinnog 19:29, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

There we are. I think I've brought it beyond a stub now. Working on finding some good pictures. Guinnog 20:25, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks. As you can see I moved it, and it turns out it's got many incoming links. Important topic, thanks again for the work. Punkmorten 21:52, 12 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Great edits! Guinnog 22:19, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Punkmorten (or anybody else!), I am of the opinion that:

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at http://www.emfa.pt/www/avisos.php?lang=ing

gives me the right to post images here so long as they are credited.

Would I be right or wrong?

I'm going to post one anyway as it needs an image; maybe you can advise me if I've misunderstood.

I'm working on a version of the national insignia and should get it done tonight or tomorrow. I'm only learning Illustrator!

Thanks Guinnog 22:59, 12 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Done! Pics and insignia added! Guinnog 00:45, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Naming conventions
Units, formations, and bases[edit] Shortcuts: WP:MILMOS#UNITNAME WP:MILMOS#BASENAME An article about a unit, formation, or base should be placed at "Name (optional disambiguator)". The name should generally be either the official name used by the armed forces to which the unit or base belongs; or, in cases where no relevant formal name exists or where a formal name is not commonly employed by historians, the most common name used in historical literature.

from Manual of Style/Military history

Therefore all units and bases should be in Portuguese primarily a la:

Esquadra 81 - (81 squadron) or possibly Esquadra 81 - (81 squadron)

--Petebutt (talk) 23:30, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Article move
I have reverted the name of the article back to English as I cant see any reason why a non-English term should be used. Raised at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history for sanity check, thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 12:40, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
 * You are sane. Definitely the English version. Regards, Peacemaker67 (send... over) 12:43, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Aircraft: Current inventory
The article's Current inventory of aircraft section has incorrect data from Flightglobal's World Air Forces. I recommend that multiple sources be always used when possible for aircraft inventories and that the data is cross-checked.
 * 1) The F-16 version is designated as the AM, since it received the MLU;
 * 2) The F-16 twin-seat trainers are also combat-capable and used as such;
 * 3) The PoAF no longer has a total of 38 F-16s in service;
 * 4) Portugal's NH-90 purchase has been canceled for quite some time now;
 * 5) The NH-90 was never intended for the PoAF, but instead it was intended to be operated and owned by the Army;
 * 6) The Dassault Falcon 50 has been removed from the list but they are still being operated by the PoAF in the VIP transport, MEDEVAC and organ transport missions;
 * 7) There are 3x C-130H and 3x C-130H-30 in service, totaling 6 (not 5) C-130s;
 * 8) The Alpha Jet is no longer used in the light attack role.

Best regards, Get_It (talk) 01:30, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Data from Flightglobal's World Air Forces is once again being strictly used as a sole source for the aircraft section, thus leading to the removal of also sourced content and the addition of aircraft not in service and "on order". I have to disagree with only Flightglobal being used as a source and with the inclusion of aircraft "on order" as per the arguments given on the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history/Archive 155. Best regards, Get_It (talk) 07:32, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

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number of P-3C and C-130
Below is comparison on information on Portuguese Air Force (PAF), WAF, scramble.nl and other source:

PAF page
 * P-3C: 5
 * C-130: 3 C-130H-30 and unknown number C-130H

WAF 2020/2019
 * P-3C: 4
 * C-130: 4

WAF 2018/2017
 * P-3C: 5
 * C-130: 4

scramble.nl (per 16 April 2020)
 * P-3C : 5
 * C-130 : 5 (3 C-130H-30 and 2 C-130H)

other source
 * C-130: 5 (6-1), 5 , 5

Can we agree that total number of PAF's P-3C is 5 and C-130 is 5? Ckfasdf (talk) 04:27, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Beforehand, I'm sorry but given the current situation I'm overworked and tired to properly help out with this subject. When it comes to the P-3C, I believe that, regardless of maintenance schedules, the count of 5 is correct. Regarding the C-130 fleet, one aircraft was lost and w/o while another airframe has been "sidelined" for a long time; but the count of 5 makes sense given the "in service" context. Now, can we agree that WAF is not a reliable source by itself? Best regards, -- Get_It (talk) 00:25, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

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