Talk:Potassium bitartrate

What is Cream of Tartar
Maybe this could be used as a reference? http://chemistry.about.com/od/foodcookingchemistry/a/Cream-Of-Tartar.htm

Where did Cream of Tartar get its name?
Where did Cream of Tartar get its name? The Tartaric acid article says "Tartaric acid was first isolated from potassium tartrate, known to the ancients as tartar"

So.. why? -- 70.71.155.24 03:18, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

No answer, but another question: Why is "tar" black, but "tar tar" is WHITE? (e.g., cream of tar-tar, dental tar-tar, & tar-tar sauce)

According to http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/tartar (scroll down a bit), the etymology of "tartar" in this context comes "from M.L. tartarum, from late Gk. tartaron 'tartar encrusting the sides of casks,' perhaps of Semitic origin". My case isn't strong enough to edit the article itself though. I was actually expecting it to have an origin relating to the Tatars: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatars ... but apparently not. As for why Tar is black and tartar is white, I think those words come from completely different origins. I'm still trying to work out why soy milk is white and soy sauce is black. -- 129.78.64.101 03:57, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

As a potassium supplement
Does potassium bitartrate have any practical use as a potassium supplement in the human diet? Webgrunt (talk) 17:14, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

relationship to carnitine
How is tartaric acid related to L-Tartrate in terms of nutrition? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.228.47.100 (talk) 04:45, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

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Good picture at wikipedia.de
There's a great example of potassium bitartrate at Weinstein, specifically. How exactly to I move it over here? 76.66.209.194 (talk) 20:16, 8 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, nice example. Looks like this can't be done right now because the Wikipedia-stored Image:Weinstein.jpg has a conflicting (identical) name.  I've submitted a rename request for the local file.  I'll throw the image up after the rename happens. Noca2plus (talk) 23:24, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Undefined 'dianion'
In the 'Chemistry section', 'potassium bitartrate will dissociate into acid tartrate, potassium cation, and the tartrate dianion.' In this sentence, the term 'dianion' is wikilinked to the Dianion article, which is itself a redirect to the Ion article...which does not mention the term 'dianion' at all! My suggestion is to rewrite this bit into 'potassium bitartrate will dissociate into potassium, acid tartrate, and tartrate' and thereby avoid mention of 'dianion' altogether. The alternative would be to edit the Ion article to accommodate this term. Thoughts? PBarak (talk) 18:13, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Ambiguous use of "dissociate"
In the 'Chemistry section'. 'potassium bitartrate will dissociate into acid tartrate, tartrate and potassium ions.' In this sentence the word dissociate is used to refer to two separate processes, dissolving of a salt and the dissociation of an acid molecule. While dissolving is a dissociation process, I would just call it dissolving saving dissociation for the process of breaking up the hydrogen tartrate molecular ion into the tartrate ion and the hydronium ion. If the trivial name bitartrate is preferred to hydrogen tartare and hydrogen ion is preferred to the hydronium ion then I would rewrite the sentence as "On dissolving the bitartrate ion further dissociates to form tartrate and hydrogen ions". If a more chemically accurate description is wanted then I would write "On dissolving the hydrogen tartrate anion further dissociates with water to form tartrate anions and hydronium cations". There will also be a very small number of tartaric acid molecules as well, but less than the number of tartrate ions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.72.213.123 (talk) 05:05, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Used largely in artificial sweeteners like Sweet'N Low
Someone care to write a section about how it is used to bulk up Sweet'N Low? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.138.135.42 (talk) 02:06, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Used as what in sodium-free salt substitute?
My guess is an anti-caking agent, but the line relating to its use in salt-substitutes does not specify why it is used in them, whereas the other lines in that section do offer reasons for use. I'm hoping someone better than I at wikipedia can fix this. tyvm &#59;&#62;jamvaru (talk) 11:00, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Medicinal uses
The linked reference, Yoga Wiz, does not mention anything about potassium bitartrate having efficacy against candida as is claimed in the article. Moreover, I'm iffy on the use of the site as a 'reliable source' in any case. 50.164.202.78 (talk) 03:50, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I agree. A source like that should never be used to support a medical claim (WP:MEDRS).  I have removed the claim and the reference. -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:19, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Name "cream of tatar"
Can anybody say what this name is supposed to mean? 87.154.186.247 (talk) 22:48, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Possible error?
In the "Chemistry" section it reads: "Upon dissolution in acid, potassium bitartrate will dissociate into acid tartrate, tartrate, and potassium ions."

Are 'acid tartrate' and 'tartrate' different or is this a typo? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.51.149.199 (talk) 09:08, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Mistaken statement?
referencing: "This mixture is sometimes mistakenly made with vinegar and sodium bicarbonate (baking soda), which actually react to neutralise each other, creating carbon dioxide and a sodium acetate solution."

How? Where does the potassium come from? Is this a mistake?

Citation need tag, Medicinal use section
It appears that the citation with respect to "hyperkalemia" acknowledges that "there are no cases in the literature describing toxicity from ingesting cream of tartar" though reports on only "two cases of life-threatening hyperkalemia". Therefore there are more citations needed to establish the facts claimed, as a mere "two cases" are clearly not sufficient to establish a general rule. 98.178.191.34 (talk) 08:09, 27 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Please can somebody also make a reference to the fact that there is emerging evidence that cream of tartar causes potentially fatal kidney injury in dogs (and cats) so that people keep it away from their pets!
 * https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/vec.13234 94.174.64.146 (talk) 16:35, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

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